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  •  What makes Bangladeshis so liberal (4+ / 0-)
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    Did they vote for Obama at a higher rate than African Americans?  I used to know a Bangladeshi family and they seemed pretty culturally conservative to me.

    •  Those numbers look off (2+ / 0-)
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      Particularly the very high number of Bangladeshis. There's no way that there are roughly equal numbers of Bangladeshi, Indian, Vietnamese, and Korean voters. According to the census there about 10 times as many Korean and Vietnamese Americans and Bangladeshi Americans and about 20 times as many Indian Americans as Bangladeshi Americans.

      26, originally OK-1, currently NY-10. Former swingnut.

      by okiedem on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:32:25 PM PST

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    •  Probably religion mainly (10+ / 0-)

      Muslim-American voters are almost unanimously Democratic at this point since the Republican party is so outwardly hostile to them.

      26, originally OK-1, currently NY-10. Former swingnut.

      by okiedem on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 02:36:32 PM PST

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    •  Where are Japanese Americans in the poll? (6+ / 0-)

      That's kind of a head scratcher.

      Looking at their website, its not a national poll. They only polled 13 states and Hawaii was not one of the states that was polled, which explains why perhaps Bangladeshi Americans are over represented.

      •  Did they conduct the poll themselves? (1+ / 0-)
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        Or did they hire a professional polling company?

        I don't mean to impugn their efforts (they've conducted the poll since 1988 according to the link), and I'm certainly no expert myself, but there's a whole discipline of survey design and so on, and it'd be interesting to know how they made their methodological choices.

        27, Dem, Dude seeing a dude, CT-04(originally), PA-02/NY-10 (formerly PA-02/NY-12, then PA-02/NY-14).

        by Xenocrypt on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:16:26 PM PST

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    •  Just because first-gen types are conservative... (9+ / 0-)

      ... culturally doesn't mean second-gen types are.

      OGGoldy has argued here at times that Muslim-Americans will probably flip back to being Democratic. I disagree pretty strongly with that view because it's fairly out-of-touch with how second-generation Muslim-Americans actually are. Yes, many first-generation Muslim-Americans are very culturally and socially conservative (something which is true of many, many immigrant groups). But immigrant groups, and especially non-Christian immigrant groups, are often strongly Democratic because the Republicans aren't so appealing when much of their ideology is white, Christian nationalism.

      And second-generation immigrants tend to acculturate to their peers. Most second-generation Muslim Americans I know are culturally Americanized - most Muslim kids I know who grew up here partied plenty in college, drink, have sex before marriage, date outside their religion, etc. And even those who remain more personally religious often take a tolerant, live-and-let-live attitude to these things since so many of the people they grow up with - their friends, coworkers - aren't so socially conservative.

      Again, none of this is unique to Muslims. I've seen it among Hindu kids, children of culturally conservative Hispanic or Filipino parents, and plenty of others. There's no reason to think that second-generation Muslims are going to be much more socially conservative or Republican then their peers.

      •  This has been my experience as well (2+ / 0-)
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        KingofSpades, MichaelNY

        I dated a girl from Pakistan who grew up mostly in the United States while I was in college, and yeah, everything you say is true.

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        by SaoMagnifico on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:42:43 PM PST

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      •  Er... *Republican (2+ / 0-)
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        I meant to say that OGG has argued that Muslim-Americans will probably flip back to being Republican.

        Incidentally, one major reason Bush won the Muslim vote was actually because among Muslim Arab-Americans, there was opposition to the Clinton Administration's Middle East policies. People expected Bush to be more balanced regarding the Palestinian Question, given that Republican Administrations (Bush, Sr.'s certainly) had historically been much moreso.

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