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  •  Decorated Vietnam vet with PTSD ? (11+ / 0-)

    So far the only decorations I see are not combat awards.

    Government records and interviews with neighbors indicate that Dykes grew up in the Dothan area and joined the Navy in Midland City, serving on active duty from 1964 to 1969. His record shows several awards, including the Vietnam Service Medal and the Good Conduct Medal. During his service, Dykes was trained in aviation maintenance.

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    by Zwoof on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 06:18:25 AM PST

    •  it is resurrecting the old meme of the deranged (12+ / 0-)

      VN vet.  We can thank the public media that VN vets are either seen as hopeless druggies or paranoid, and violent lunatics or  as living in a cardboard box under an overpass.

      That meme is no more valid for the VN vet than it was for the WWI or WWII or Korean vet but the battle over Agent Orange and PTSD caused those stereotypes to be indelibly etched in the public's mind

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      A lot of people in this guy's age group were in Vietnam or otherwise in the military.  His military service has nothing to do with this.  Putting this to PTSD is a dodge to avoid discussing the role of movement conservatism in shaking these nuts loose.

    •  He served. (6+ / 0-)
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      He was decorated for his service. he IS a veteran. PERIOD.

      Not all vets with PTSD were in "combat" positions. He repaired planes. on a base that was probably under assault. He still would have had to fight. He probably saw airmen he knew come back with wounds. He may not have been in combat, but he sure as shit saw it.

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      by theRoaringGirl on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 09:04:05 AM PST

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      •  Serving... (1+ / 0-)
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        does not make you a war hero. My guess is you also want to hand out trophies to all the kids for "participating".

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        by wesinCA on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 10:25:06 AM PST

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        •  WTH? (1+ / 0-)
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          I never called him a "hero" nor has the press. the simply say he was decorated. YOU interpret that to mean "hero"
          You think that personnel who did not see combat on the lines is LESS than an infantry man or the pilot?

          Got news for you, that airplane mechanic was more important than the pilot, for it without the mechanic, that fighter or bomber or Huey would never stay in the air. Everyone who served is a veteran. He was rewarded for the quality of his work.  
           The military medaled him. Not me. Take your issues up with them

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          by theRoaringGirl on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 03:48:53 PM PST

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    •  Ha (3+ / 0-)
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      I have my good conduct award paperwork filed right next to my bad conduct discharge paperwork.

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      by artmartin on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 10:12:03 AM PST

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    •  Huffpost reported he spent his time in Japan (0+ / 0-)

      during the Vietnam War.  

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      by wishingwell on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 10:28:52 AM PST

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    •  didn't see that quote in this diary (2+ / 0-)
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      for that reason.  I know too many veterans decorated for combat reasons and it bothers me when this becomes part of the story, or worse, an excuse - yes Dykes served 4 yrs in VN - but would that be an excuse for all of the behavior described?
      We don't pay enough attention to our vets, but there is no evidence of any ptsd or untreated issues.  And there are many proud soldiers suffering from the left-overs of war who never harm others.

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      by 51percent on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 11:32:41 AM PST

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      •  He served 4 years during the Vietnam War (2+ / 0-)
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        Apparently in California and Japan, per CNN.

        Not every person in the military between 1959 and 1975 was in Vietnam.  We had a lot of military in a lot of places, some of them very far from Southeast Asia.

        Blaming "Vietnam" and "PTSD" makes it very easy to ignore the closer, more recent, homegrown reasons for the kind of behavior Dykes exhibited.

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        by stormicats on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 02:56:06 PM PST

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