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  •  Okay, I'll bite (3+ / 0-)

    No, there's no scientific study that women are buying more AR-15s.

    No, a Glock doesn't give a mom an advantage that an AR-15 wouldn't. The smaller package comes at the expense of a less powerful round. If we're talking about a home invasion for purposes other than robbery, you want to fight back with anything you can, and .223 packs a hell of lot more punch than 9mm. (An AR-15 is not necessary to do this, either. A lever action .30-30 would also do the job.)

    Yes, LaPierre is trying to destroy all middle ground in order to develop, or maybe to cater to, an all-or-nothing mindset. I wish he'd stop it, because he's undermining his own cause.

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    by maxomai on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 07:42:30 AM PST

    •  Soooo.... (1+ / 0-)
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      ... the basic lesson to take away here is that Glocks just don't cut it. Interesting. Sure, a 9mm Shorty doesn't have the stopping power of a .223 long, but from the perspective of the one receiving a nearly half-inch diameter piece of metal to the body, it's pretty moot. And having seen at pretty close range the damage a 9mm can do to a real live person, it's not a claim that stands up in what we loosely call real life.

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      by Freelance Escapologist on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 07:58:08 AM PST

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      •  Reading is fundamental (2+ / 0-)

        What you are pretending I said:

        the basic lesson to take away here is that Glocks just don't cut it.

        What I actually said:

        No, a Glock doesn't give a mom an advantage that an AR-15 wouldn't. The smaller package comes at the expense of a less powerful round. If we're talking about a home invasion for purposes other than robbery, you want to fight back with anything you can, and .223 packs a hell of lot more punch than 9mm.

        What this actually means:

        .223 is more powerful than any pistol round

        Glocks are just fine for many self-defense use cases. On the other hand, if you're likely to be smaller and weaker than your attackers (as most women are), and you had a choice between 9mm plus a free hand versus .223, why wouldn't you use .223?

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        by maxomai on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 08:10:14 AM PST

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    •  Except that (1+ / 0-)
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      Ms. Trotter wasn't talking about stopping power of this gun vs. that gun.  She's saying that the gun needs to be sufficiently scary looking for a young mother to defend herself.

      I brought the glock up to simply show that you could kill plenty of attackers even if you "only" had 17 rounds.   And even that one has optional extended clip accessories.  

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