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  •  Its no disrespect to to assume (4+ / 0-)

    Someone didn't serve in combat if he has nothing to prove it in his record.
    Its a logical conclusion

    Happy just to be alive

    by exlrrp on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 06:58:17 AM PST

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    •  I hear you... respectfully disagree... (8+ / 0-)

      Of course this is coming from somebody who fought in the current wars and has my highest decoration as an Army Commendation Medal.

      I didn't get my Purple Heart because I was "Breaking Regulations" at the time I got hit.  (Wasn't wearing my DAPS)  I was told to essentially choose between a CAB plus Purple Heart, or No Article 15.

      I do understand Vietnam was a different war.  (My father served as a Teletype Yeoman for the Navy and spent almost his whole time in an apartment in the Philippines.)

      I don't blame Christians. I blame Stupid. Which sadly is a much more popular religion these days.

      by detroitmechworks on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 07:07:22 AM PST

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      •  Rear echelon troops saw action in Vietnam (7+ / 0-)

        and it is possible to have witnessed an event that led to a PTSD rating. I am just saying that the media should not imply that being a Vietnam vet and suffering from PTSD are related. He  could be a vet, but he could be lying "to neighbors" about PTSD since this is not public information. Or, he could suffer from PTSD from a civilian event such as an accident.

        We all stand submissively before the global ATM machine network like trained chickens pecking the correct colored buttons to release our grains of corn. Joe Bageant

        by Zwoof on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 07:17:31 AM PST

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      •  Everybody has their anecdotes (2+ / 0-)
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        Over the Edge, detroitmechworks

        And I'm not disagreeing with what you say, Because it doesn't contradict what I say.
        If someone does not have a CMB, a CIB, a CAR, or equivalent, ALL the combat veterans I know would conclude you were not in combat. If you provide stories they may change that.
        thats what they give CARS and CIBs for--to designate those who served in combat from those who didn't. And thats why they keep records---to determine later who did and didn't do what. I'm the first to say records aren't awayd reliable but veterans memories aren't always reliable either.
        thats what the VA uses as the first cut to determine if you were in combat. if you don't have that but have  a convincing story they'll probably accept that. (or not)
        Plenty of people saw  combat with no CIB, etc. but you don't even need combat experience to get paid for PTSD, I know someone who got a 50% rating from watching a barracks fight.
        My lrrp platoon leader was hit by M60 bullet at a firing range in Vietnam and he didn't get a purple heart. And i know a cook who got a purple heart when his stove blew up.
        The awards and decorations were and probably are a corrupt system, heavily weighted towards officers. John Kerry wouldn't have gotten bupkes for what he did if he was in the 101st. Like blowing away that one guy. that was just business in the 101st, if you didn't do that you would have gotten talked to

        here's something else i can tell you from 4+ decades of dealing with vets: EVRYBODY thinks he didn't get the awards he earned, so just consider you donated all  those unaknowledged good moves

        Happy just to be alive

        by exlrrp on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 05:48:13 PM PST

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