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  •  Sure but right now it isn't economical (4+ / 0-)
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    Don midwest, FarWestGirl, alisonk, BYw

    I'm in the industry and the biggest deterent to sustainable solutions is economics.  So we pick our battles.

    If you can make a solar film that is cheaper than white paint, you'll do really well.  Until then, invest in large scale solar arrays and wind farms (economy of scale), reducing heat island through white roofs and parking lots, and using lots of insulation and insulated low UV glazing.

    •  Large scale solar arrays (1+ / 0-)
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      Just Bob

      are not my favorite, for a variety of reasons. Isn't solar better as a distributed power source?

      -7.5 -7.28, A carrot is as close as a rabbit gets to a diamond.-Don Van Vliet

      by Blueslide on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 05:33:38 PM PST

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    •  Solar film cheaper than white paint (3+ / 0-)
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      alisonk, DeminNewJ, ricklewsive

      Might be called grass.  Or moss.  Or, unfortunately, mold.  But you get the idea.  These things already exist, and will do half the work for you if you simply introduce them to appropriate resources and stop actively exterminating them at every opportunity.

      A lot of the creepy sterility of our human world is the direct result of a deliberate aesthetic cultivated during the first half of the 20th century called Modernism, which extolled the perfection of "clean lines" and "uncluttered landscape" and expanses of steel and concrete as expressions of human power.  The Nazis and Communists are famous for it, but they only invested in a movement that was already well underway.  In America, much of this was invested in near-worship of all things related to aviation and space science.  Think about science fiction novel covers.  There are no trees in Outer Space.  And, theoretically, no mold, mildew or insects.  Everything is sanitary.  Perfectly clean and devoid of life.

      Only problem is, we happen to be living beings ourselves.  And new developments in science suggest that we aren't even single organisms, but collections of cohabitating symbiotic life-forms.  We depend on the bacteria in our guts to digest our food, and the mitochondria encased in our cells to process our intracellular energy.  In the larger world, we need plants to produce oxygen, a wide array of foodstuffs, and an even wider array of supporting organisms to keep our foodstuffs and symbionts fed and healthy.

      Solar film on the oceans = algae.  Solar film on the mountains = lichen, alpines.  We don't have to invent any of this stuff.  All we have to do is quit poisoning it.

    •  what costs do you include in your economics? (0+ / 0-)

      How much of our military budget do you include and what kind of set asides for sea level rise, food banking and other remediation needs created by climate instability are in your cost estimates for solar?

      We kidnap. We torture. It's our policy. Embrace it or end it!

      by Mosquito Pilot on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 04:08:23 AM PST

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