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  •  Nuclear has no incentive (0+ / 0-)

    they get massive gov't subsidy, liability protection, and have their R&D done in weapons labs.  Then there's the vast risk. Experimental designs must be much more rigorously verified before testing, so the costs of innovation are higher due to the nature of the deadly poisons they produce.  So until that breakthrough happens, and working thorium or pebble-bed reactors become commodities, there is no incentive to make small innovations. Indeed, even mandated safety repairs are delayed by years or decades, or just avoided because the costs exceed what the owners expect to squeeze from their rustbucket plants.  Even before Fukushima began its ongoing poisoning of the planet, the Chinese were beginning to pull back on their ambitious nuke plans when they realized they couldn't find enough uranium for them.

    •  Every power generation source (0+ / 0-)

      is subsized. I wouldn't have solar on my roof if I didn't get ~50% paid for by state and federal subsidies.

      It's amazing to me that every time nuclear comes up, normally progressive people turn into free market libertarians. Cost is a factor, but it seems to me the more important question is how does the US generate the power it needs while reducing the impact on both its population and the environment.

      'Deadly poisons' exist in virtually every power generation scheme. Nuclear just tends to control theirs much better than others, which is why they are at the bottom of the mortality list, even folding in Fukishima and Chernobyl.

      Your assertions about China are out of date:

      http://www.economist.com/...

      They can't afford not to go nuclear given their massive health costs and pollution associated with coal.

      Of course, they are also trying to accelerate fusion development, but they are probably over optimistic on that front.

      And finally, you mention things like 'lack of innovation' as if it's some sort of inherent, unavoidable characteristic of nuclear power rather than just a question of providing the right incentives.

      This site and community consistently (and rightly) look to the government to solve various problems. And, once again, nuclear seems to turn some people here into libertarian conservatives who decry any government involvement.

      I find it utterly flabbergasting.

      •  China has an IEC fusion program (0+ / 0-)

        and is watching the EMC2 developments, Re: Polyell fusion.

        FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

        by Roger Fox on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 11:03:39 AM PST

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