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  •  That refers to using excess electricity to (0+ / 0-)
    During times of excess renewable generation, we first fill storage, then use remaining excess electricity to displace natural gas.
    displace natural gas (and oil) as home heating.  IOW, to pursuade people with gas and oil furnaces to use a super-cheap oversupply of electricity instead of running their furnaces in the wintertime, because the study revealed that there would be a consistent excess of wind energy in winter.  If there happened to be a fluke temporary shortage of wind some cold day, people could run their furnaces just as they do now.  That sentance does not refer to natural gas electrical peaker plants.  

    Renewable energy brings national global security.     

    by Calamity Jean on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:25:00 AM PST

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    •  The dairy refers to nat gas peakers (0+ / 0-)

      in fact links to it.

      FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

      by Roger Fox on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:38:22 AM PST

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      •  The diary refers to natgas generators, but (1+ / 0-)
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        that particular sentence refers to gas used for heating.  Here: http://climatecrocks.com/... is an interview with one of the authors of the study, which says:

        We’re getting lots of excess electricity, especially September, October through May.

        And lo and behold, that’s when we’re using a lot of fuels for heating. So . . . we asked the question, suppose we displaced natural gas for heating with this excess electricity?

        Renewable energy brings national global security.     

        by Calamity Jean on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 08:32:07 AM PST

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        •  While the diary links to this GE puff piece (0+ / 0-)

          http://www.technologyreview.com/...

          Look the Del study uses the words "natural gas" 33 times, in the first 2 dozen or so they are referencing displacing nat gas, I quite counting at that point.

          The quote you just provided is about displacing nat gas.... the diary inserts nat gas plants to generate electricity where renewables cant.

          Thats simply not the same. And I find no evidence the authors of the Del study support more nat gas peakers.

          FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

          by Roger Fox on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:56:09 AM PST

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