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  •  Great example of tolerance (8+ / 0-)

    It can be very hard to get older scouts to interact with younger ones.  Your self awareness is unusual and allowed you to grow as a scout and person.  In addition, your story is exactly why BSA needs to change it's policy regarding the gay community.  You cannot insist that scouts treat all others as equals and then give them a list of exceptions.  My understanding is that BSA would not take the lead in recognizing the gay community, but now that the military has, there is a much better chance that they will.

    I think turfing the decision to the chartered organizations is a cop out.  Yes it will allow local control over the admittance of gays into scouting and most chartered organizations have already made the decision to be inclusive.  How is that policy going to work for the paid and volunteer positions at the district and council levels?  Incremental change can lead to greater change and in this case BSA needs to remove the ban entirely.

    Thanks for the thoughtful diary which answers why BSA needs to correct a very repressive policy.

    •  You really think so? (4+ / 0-)
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      wasatch, kyril, wader, JesseCW
      most chartered organizations have already made the decision to be inclusive
      With the high percentage of troops chartered through the Mormon and Catholic churches, as well as other denominations that have drawn the line on gay rights (or still struggle with it)?

      "No one life is more important than another. No one voice is more valid than another. Each life is a treasure. Each voice deserves to be heard." Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse & Onomastic

      by Catte Nappe on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 12:08:23 PM PST

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    •  It's a bit of a cop out but there still is a (3+ / 0-)
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      slight difference between a policy like this, which is what it used to be:

      "Your local troop is officially required to refuse membership to these banned types of people.  But our ability to enforce this is pretty weak so you might be able to sneak some tolerance in and we won't always notice."

      Versus the new policy which is:

      "If your local troop wants to be tolerant or intolerant thats up to you."

      It's not a big improvement, but it is some.  Troops that do buck the trend and accept gay scouts won't be just getting away with it secretly anymore.  It will be officially allowed for them to do that.

      •  Basically my take on the prospective change... (1+ / 0-)
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        It's pusillanimous and half-hearted and merely kicks the can down the road a little.

        But it's a beginning.

        And it's a credit to all the activists and other aspects of societal pressure which started Costing the BSA enough for even the entrenched bigots to notice.

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