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  •  It Probably Took Only a Second or Two (3+ / 0-)
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    Over the Edge, coquiero, aitchdee

    Article doesn't say however.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 01:49:20 PM PST

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    •  Nobody else was there n/t (7+ / 0-)

      "No one life is more important than another. No one voice is more valid than another. Each life is a treasure. Each voice deserves to be heard." Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse & Onomastic

      by Catte Nappe on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 01:54:17 PM PST

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      •  Probably shot them in the back, or from ambush (1+ / 0-)
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        Why is that hard to figure out?
        Or they were standing close to him when he was firing nd he just turned and fired them up? The Lindsey Lohaan award for Poor Impulse Control is in order here.
        More than one believable scenario and if there was no one there, thats how he got away.

        I am a combat vet (Vietnam) with a VA PTSD rating with---and follow this closely---a lifetime spotless criminal record. Screw everybody dummb enought to think that PTSD+ bad behavior. PTSD is not a good excuse for bad behavior, tho plenty of people wnt to pretend it is.
        Some of the friends I go shooting (and golfing) with are lso Vietnam cmbat vets, some of them are retired military and law enforcement also.
        I have no problem shooting with these people. Are you kidding me? these are the best, most knowledgeable people you'll ever go shooting with. Everybdy you serve in combat with has PTSD day to day, both then and now. I knew many WWII vets who had PTSD I know now and they were good people..

        I have been hearing much on the tubes from old pals, he was pretty well respected. I like what he was doing with PTSD people.

        The notion that a gun will protect you from all things at all times is  wishful thinking. I don't know anyone who believes it.  I always try charm first, then diplomacy.

        Happy just to be alive

        by exlrrp on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 08:01:30 PM PST

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        •  cosign but so many (1+ / 0-)
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          gun fetishists on the Right do believe this:

          "The notion that a gun will protect you from all things at all times..."

          •  I know a lot of gun people, different types (2+ / 0-)
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            none of them believe it.
            No weapon will save you all the time.
            They just like to carry guns and come up with any excuse.

            there's a lot of people besides rightwingers  that like lots of guns, like gangsters. There's a whole thug culture that has nothing to do with rightwing that idolizes guns, sings about them, brandishes them, uses them.

            If youre for gun control you don't believe in No Snitching, right?  be really inconsistent to do so.

            Happy just to be alive

            by exlrrp on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 08:33:32 PM PST

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            •  ummmm logical non-sequitor? (3+ / 0-)
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              "If youre for gun control you don't believe in No Snitching"

              how does one follow the other? me confused. why would you ask me about some ghetto criminal faux mafia no snitching mess?

              •  Didn't ask you about ghetto anything (0+ / 0-)

                the thug culture I'm talking about runs through our whole society, every race, and I'm not claiming its in any one location or one race or even all ghetto--you are.
                And it affects us all, at least as much as RW guns, maybe more!

                You seem happy poiinting to the RW as a major problem with guns and that is right but there's also major problems in other places. Not to look at them is wrong. you don't want to dodge major issues.

                If you want to look at the issue, you first need to determine how many people are killed and hurt by RW violence and how many are killed by thug culture. then you know whee to spenfd your time most effficently.
                I'll be the first to say its a lot more fashionable to look at the RW and complain than look at thug culture---whixh affest us all.

                If you believe in gun control you  believe that the cops should have more power. Fact is fact. In order to enable them to do that, youre going to help them do their job, or why even talk about it?

                Happy just to be alive

                by exlrrp on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 04:09:28 AM PST

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                •  "stop snitchin" is a phrase common to a certain (1+ / 0-)
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                  social cohort/hip hop/etc.

                  Again, why ask me those questions?

                  "You seem happy pointing to the RW as a major problem with guns and that is right but there's also major problems in other places. Not to look at them is wrong. you don't want to dodge major issues."

                  How is that relevant here? Again, separate conversation for another time.

                  Interesting deflections and chaff here.  Listen to my podcast with Prof. Slotkin at my own site to here the range of concern I have about American gun culture and nihilism in general.

                  But, you showed your hand with your questions here. Once more, the white racial frame is one hell of a drug.

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