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  •  no one is blaming soldiers for the policy of their (3+ / 0-)
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    NYFM, dream weaver, blueness

    government. what we are discussing is the real impact of said policies on soldiers and more generally the criminal lack of resources they are faced with when home.

    this is also a chance to consider the behavior of a man who was "proud" of killing people and as I pointed out earlier had sociopathic tendencies--which is what made him so good at his job.

    we do our soldiers no service or favor by recycling tired group-think lines like "support the troops" when we do not ask hard questions about policies, outcomes, and the human cost. Moreover, should every war be supported? I think not. But among the sheeple such rhetoric silences truth telling and real patriotism.

    •  He was doing a job (2+ / 0-)
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      the government conditioned and trained him to do. A government that gave zero thought to the mental destruction it causes.

      What ever he had to tell himself to keep being able to put one foot in front of the other works for me. How he handled it may offend you but then you don't have to live with his memories do you?

      My view on war is we should never get involved in it unless we have exhausted every other option and the we better think long and hard.

      The toll on those who actually come home and the lost of their potential is huge.

      Now we are left to try to make sure those who need help get it. Do not confuse our governments war with the people who actually have spent tour after tour in a war zone until that is what seems normal to them.

      Because they don't say what you want them to or think like you think does not make them undesrving of life.

      The old saying don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes comes to mind.

      It is the heart that makes a man rich. He is rich according to what he is not what he has -Henry Ward Beecher

      by PSWaterspirit on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 04:37:34 PM PST

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      •  i think we can judge given we have to live (2+ / 0-)
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        in the same society with folks who have been asked to do horrible things and have not been sufficiently deprogrammed. given the fact that he had to dehumanize his foe in order to kill them is a given, moreover it is psychology of killing in war 101. we can still ask hard questions about his morality, ethics, and gloating about such matters.

    •  Dude I peeled one fucking lot of spuds in th Army (1+ / 0-)
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      Thats all you need to know

      Happy just to be alive

      by exlrrp on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 08:25:34 PM PST

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