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  •  Participate in 'illegal drug culture', (1+ / 0-)
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    rocksout

    then evaluate its morality.  You simply have no clue what you're talking about.

    •  then answer this: (0+ / 0-)

      is it ethical/moral to buy illegal drugs?

      how is that you can correlate drones and tax use (correctly) but can not connect the devastation of illegal drug culture in all its aspects to buying illegal drugs, including pot.

      what makes buying pot any different from hard core drugs, if that is the invisible line or if you're putting pot in some different category? the business model is as brutal and feeds the vampires.

      or is it that you don't like to think about smoking pot and the consequences of that decision on others...

      •  Interesting question (1+ / 0-)
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        pfiore8

        It is pretty clearly unethical. It is the morality that must be decided by the individual.

        Having said that, is it ethical/moral to shop at WalMart? Or buy Nike gym shoes? Or Apple iPhones?

        All are ethical, but are they moral?

        Just sayin'...

        I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

        by itsjim on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 12:14:48 PM PST

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      •  Let me come up with a better metaphor. (0+ / 0-)

        Saying it's unethical or immoral to participate in what you call 'illegal drug culture' because some people who illegally sell drugs are violent is the same as saying it's unethical or immoral to be Muslim because some Muslims are terrorists.  Or Christian.  Or American.  Or anything.  The logic here renders everything everywhere unethical and immoral.  It's like saying that providing prenatal care to a woman who happens to give birth to a killer is immoral.  "Why did you give her that prenatal care?  You know some people who are born are killers!"  Let me change it around to your statement.  "Why did you give him money for that pot!  You know some people who have sold pot at some point are killers!"  It makes zero sense.  Zero.

        •  it's not that "some" people (0+ / 0-)

          are violent in the illegal drug culture. it is that the whole set up, because it is illegal, is violent and results in zero positive benefit. the illegality of it provides the rationale to act further outside social norms, like killing, getting teenagers hooked and selling... whatever.

          of course, some drug dealers are very rich. but then, as a friend of mine said years ago: "easy money is the hardest money you'll ever make. you're always looking over shoulder." just look at the Forbes 500 billionaire drug lord, now dead.

          i'm fine with pot as medicine. or recreational use. as long as it's legal.

          it may be your perception that the drug culture is not violent or that it is only violent in pockets or certain circumstances. i don't agree.

          but as a matter of principle, i am anti most drugs, legal or otherwise. in fact, i'm not all that big a fan of health care as formulated... another disaster creating a mammoth medical industrial complex that provides access to disease maintenance and insurance. in fact, the standard now is to brand diseases in order to create drugs. it's gotten way way out of hand, imo.

          perhaps it's a bit off topic here, but since i've gone there: true health care? safe food/water, good prenatal care for all pregnant women, and clear understanding of developing children, their nutritional needs and what not to expose them to (like toxic plastics et al). now that is what i would call health care.

           

          •  You aren't entitled to your own facts. (0+ / 0-)

            "it may be your perception that the drug culture is not violent or that it is only violent in pockets or certain circumstances. i don't agree."

            You don't agree.  And are simply factually wrong.  This isn't some subtle difference in analysis.

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