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  •  I'm curious... (13+ / 0-)

    How many of these fundamentalist Republicans with ties to Christian organizations only support Israel because of the Christian belief they are God's chosen people. I grew up in a fundamentalist Pentecostal church, and that was the pastor's reason for supporting Israel - God would condemn us if we didn't. Plus, they are going to be instrumental during the End Times.

    The Jewish people should be protected from Palestinian terrorists, but the Israeli government scares the shit out of me. Netanyahu reminds me of George W. Bush.

    •  I'd like to hear our representatives discussing (9+ / 0-)

      the security needs of both the Palestinians and state of Israel. As long as either side regards the other as illegitimate, as a people, it's going to be difficult for there to be any sort of path to peace.

      When life gives you wingnuts, make wingnut butter!

      by antirove on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 06:26:07 PM PST

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    •  Neytanyahu reminds me more of Cheney. (7+ / 0-)

      GWB was pretty clueless.

      I suspect many fundies are not anti-Jewish bigots. At least, I have never heard a Jewish slur from one. On the other hand, my wife tells me her fundie father is pro-Israel, but just as bigoted towards Jews as any other minority. He is white.

      •  Anti-Semitism is a core value in much of the (1+ / 0-)
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        present-day Republican Party, as it has historically been. We have Nixon and Billy Graham on tape talking about it. There were WASP country clubs, and quotas on Jews in the Ivy League, and anti-Jewish immigration laws. The US refused to take any meaningful number of refugees from Hitler and Nazism.

        Jews in Hollywood, where there were enough of them with enough money, started their own country club, Hillcrest. Even Groucho Marx, who famously said that he refused to join any club that would have him as a member, was a regular there.

        Republicans continue to complain that Jews are too Liberal, too given to supporting the underdog, too concerned about civil rights, and so on.

        I live in Indiana, where even Democrats who like the Jews they know personally think nothing of casual anti-Semitic remarks like calling bargaining "Jewing down".

        Of course, Republicans don't mind Jewish money, or anti-Semitic pseudo-Christian Armageddonist "Pro-Israel" votes.

        Then there is transplanted Southern Democratic anti-Semitism, going back to before the Civil War, and absorbed into the Republican Southern Strategy.

        Gerrymandra delenda est

        by Mokurai on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 11:28:25 AM PST

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    •  Good question (3+ / 0-)
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      I think the whole end-times thing is for the masses. I think most fundies agree with an aggressive foreign policy, which includes protecting Israel and funding it as a strong counterweight to the other countries in the region, especially Iran. It comes down to that.

      The civil rights, gay rights and women's movements, designed to allow others to reach for power previously grasped only by white men, have made a real difference, and the outlines of 21st century America have emerged. -- Paul West of LA Times

      by LiberalLady on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 07:08:34 PM PST

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    •  you'd need to understand (1+ / 0-)
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      the philosophies of the Straussians and their links to the neo-cons to get it.  George Bush was piker compared to the neo-cons and straussians in his cabinet and sphere of influence.

      Newt 2012. Sociopath, adulterer, hypocrite, Republican.

      by tikkun on Mon Feb 04, 2013 at 10:36:12 PM PST

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