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  •  So, you'll dismiss out of hand... (13+ / 0-)

    ...those who happen to disagree with you:

    Seriously, anybody who argues that an AR-15 is a better weapon for hunting than even a halfway decent bolt action hunting rifle is stupid or lying.
    That is already enough for me to question your intent to discuss the subject honestly.  Declaring that anyone who disagrees with you is either "stupid or lying" is an unsupported opinion at best, an ad hominem attack at worst.  Neither is a particularly compelling argument.

    Further, you now seem to be insisting that only hunting rifles are acceptable for ownership.  This is a limitation that you offer no support for beyond your insistence.  This is not a particularly compelling argument.

    And this comment:

    So why not work to get rid of the weapons that have no other use than to kill lots of people or give the owner a hard-on--cause that's the only thing an AR-15s are good for.
    ...shows, quite clearly, that since you cannot support your earlier "arguments" with facts or logic, you are willing to resort to personal insult.

    That being the case, I see no particular reason in continuing this discussion.

    Have a lovely evening.

    Yes, I often dress as a pirate. Your point?

    by theatre goon on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:49:45 PM PST

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    •  I note you in no way tried to defend (5+ / 0-)
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      an AR-15 as a hunting weapon.  Rather you just said I am offended and said good day.  Very telling. As for my reasoning as to why AN-15 is a lousy hunting weapon...see link in the first comment in this thread.

      Basically it has to do with muzzle velocity and bullet size and the fact that the impact energies of an AR-15 drop very quickly above 100 yards, making them lousy hunting weapons.

      "Empty vessels make the loudest sound, they have the least wit and are the greatest blabbers" Plato

      by Empty Vessel on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 04:10:24 PM PST

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      •  AR-15s aren't restricted to a single caliber (3+ / 0-)
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        AR-15s can take different caliber uppers. You can hunt with an AR-15 outfitted with a 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Creedmoor.  .243 Winchester, 300 Blackout, or 7.62x39 upper.

        And coyote hunters seem to have no problem hunting with the .223/5.56 round.

      •  There was nothing to respond to. (3+ / 0-)
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        You made an unsupported assertion, along with several outright falsehoods and personal attacks against those who disagree with you.

        Once you devolved to those dishonest tactics, I saw no more reason to attempt to engage you in discussion -- you showed that you were not interested in honest, adult debate.

        I thought I made that clear -- my bad if it was not clear.

        Of course, I never said I was offended, either, so I guess it didn't really matter if I was clear or not, you had no intention of responding to what I actually said.

        Yes, I often dress as a pirate. Your point?

        by theatre goon on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 05:07:12 AM PST

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      •  Plus tumbling rounds are designed to maim not kill (0+ / 0-)

        A wounded enemy soldier takes him out of action and also causes the enemy to care for and feed a non combatant. In war, oftenit is better to wound than to kill.

        In hunting, never.

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