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  •  There's a mentality that comes with fake military (3+ / 0-)
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    weaponry and I think it's something that needs to be squashed. The tedious weekend warrior types. Non-military cowardly folks who like to play pretend and wind up hurting people to prove that they're alphas. If removal of these weapons from the market helps kill that sub-culture, I don't see why responsible gun owners wouldn't be behind it. But you're not, which makes me think that you're unreasonable and irresponsible and that you need laws to help reign you in.

    I get the point you're making that there is no difference between one semi-automatic and another, however in making the case you've actually convinced me that all semi-automatics need to be banned as well since they have no practical use other than killing people. Not hunting, not self-defense. Just killing like at Sandy Hook and Aurora. As long as we're being honest, I see the AWB as a back door toward that eventual goal, which is why I support it.

    Anyone who thinks a gun that shoots 45 rounds a minute isn't a threat to the public isn't really being honest either.

    •  I'm glad I helped bring you to a decision point. (4+ / 0-)

      One of the differences between you and me would be our opinion what to do about people with the mentality you referenced. There probably aren't very many of them but they definitely exist and I find them rather annoying as well, I'm just not interested in even trying to control people at that level, social engineering of that nature doesn't appeal to me all that much.

      I really, really don't care what people do with in their private lives, even if what they are doing I find disturbing. As long as what they are doing is for the most part legal (I'm not a fan of the War on Drugs) and not harming or infringing on the rights of others, I say have at it, hell do it 3 or 4 times if that's what you enjoy.

      But I must admit I find your opinion about what to do about that particular sub-culture anathema to liberty. Fortunately I am not of the opinion that we need laws to reign you in.

      You eat a lot of acid, Miller, back in the hippie days?

      by oldpunk on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 02:48:40 AM PST

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      •  Liberty is shooting cans and targets? (0+ / 0-)

        It's hard to see that as what the authors of the constitution had in mind. I know you're trying to make a point, but try not to cheapen the concept of liberty along the way.

        I think we both know the "I have a gun, so I'm now a badass" mentality that weekend warriors most visibly represent is more pervasive throughout gun culture than you want to admit. Remember that most of these high profile shooting sprees are happening with legal gun owners, which is an indication that the system for giving guns to people legally doesn't work too well. Like you I don't really care much about what other people do with their lives... as long as it doesn't effect me or consistently result in the deaths of innocent people. Isn't that where you would draw the line?

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