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  •  Hon, this isn't about my Mom or how I was raised. (2+ / 0-)
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    Your position is morally bankrupt as is your defense of unconstitutional actions taken by this administration to target and kill Americans without due process.

    Any of us can be the next target, period.

    "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.

    ~Thomas Jefferson.

    I will not support your tyrannical justifications, no matter how you attempt to present them to me.

    I'm not that naive.

    -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

    by gerrilea on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 03:54:13 PM PST

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    •  I'm not your "Hon" (0+ / 0-)

      for starters.

      Any of us can be the next target, period.
      If we go foreign countries and recruit terrorists, I imagine we could be. Otherwise, I probably have more chance of being hit by an asteroid.
      •  Great plan here to divert attention from the (0+ / 0-)

        facts of the diary.

        I didn't miss the misdirection, really.  Don't like my condescending attitude, then stop patronizing me.

        This has nothing to do with being hit by an asteroid or going into foreign lands to recruit freedom fighters.

        It has everything to do with the white papers that reveal there is a plan to target and kill Americans on American Soil using drones.

        Treasonous acts being put forth by our government and what the hell are we going to do about it?

        Ask nicely? "Please don't kill me with the drones, MR. PRESIDENT!"

        The authors of said "opinions" should be arrested, Gitmo'd and then let's see what they know!  Who ordered them to create these opinions, when and why.

        -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

        by gerrilea on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 04:46:22 PM PST

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        •  I hope the irony of your own posts (0+ / 0-)

          isn't lost on you:

          he authors of said "opinions" should be arrested, Gitmo'd and then let's see what they know!  Who ordered them to create these opinions, when and wh
          So an American who did nothing more than author a position paper should be arrested for something that is not illegal, taken out of the country and tortured but hanging out with AQ terrorists is AOK? I sure hope this is snark, otherwise you are very, very sick individual.
          •  Ad hominems are not acceptable discourse here. (0+ / 0-)

            It was mostly snark, going along with your stated position that the targeted killing of Americans for exercising their right to a free press and political speech should be enough to kill them, extrajudicially.

            Since there is no "rule of law" in your position, you can't now argue that my position is invalid, really.  "WE don't torture", right?

            There is no difference here except who's doing the talking, Anwar al-Aulaqi or the administration's "legal" teams.

            What they wrote, we don't know the specific details, but we do know they planned on killing American Citizens on American soil.  Sounds like Conspiracy to commit treason.  Isn't this the argument you made against al-Aulaqi???

            Or is their speech protected because it's not an eminent threat?

            The cognitive dissonance is revealing, isn't it?

            Can't hold two opposing viewpoints and claim they are both valid.  

            -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

            by gerrilea on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 05:08:47 PM PST

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      •  In fact, when old Benjamin Franklin went to (0+ / 0-)

        France to get support, both militarily and financially, for our revolution, he would be considered a terrorist today, wouldn't he???

        Clearly from the arguments you put forth here, there can be no doubt AND that is another problem revealed.

        What line does an American cross that makes him a traitor or a terrorist?  One that advocates for the rule of law?

        Or just ones that argue against our bloodlust Imperialism in foreign lands to install puppet dictators that go on to kill millions?

        That is, after all what he did. Argue against our bloodlust.

        Would I be considered a terrorist for arguing against our Imperialism? For arguing against the War Crimes committed? For defending the constitution?

        If so, then report me to the CIA, they must have a few extra drones laying around to get me.

        -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

        by gerrilea on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 04:55:23 PM PST

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        •  Ok (0+ / 0-)

          So Ben Franklin = Al Awlaki. Got it.

          •  Is there any functional difference between the (0+ / 0-)

            two?  Both were overseas attempting to foment support for the destruction of the power structure here, correct?

            -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

            by gerrilea on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 05:34:15 PM PST

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