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  •  It is a burden, but (4+ / 0-)

    the burden can be put into prices.  And since every business pays it, there is no competitive disadvantage in having to raise prices a bit.  

    As we saw with Papa John's pizza, the cost of these benefits is far less than what businesses often claim, especially for larger businesses.

    Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

    by nominalize on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 09:15:08 PM PST

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    •  Huh???? I know China doesn't deliver pizzas... (1+ / 0-)
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      but they do damn near everything else and we (US manufacturers) have to compete with them.  The world is bigger than pizza.  Family leave (and for that matter, health care) should be a taxpayer based benefit in order to keep US companies as competitive as possible.

      The more you learn the less you know.

      by quiet in NC on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 09:21:05 PM PST

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      •  Most countries mix the two (3+ / 0-)

        The benefit is part-paid by employers, part by taxes.  Of course, companies pay those, too.  

        All that said, China requires paid maternity leave, and they have no problems competing.  

        Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

        by nominalize on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 09:25:06 PM PST

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        •  Really??? You are going to say that?? Really?? (0+ / 0-)

          China pays an average of $3.21/hr for factory worker.  Yeah, they really compete.  

          The more you learn the less you know.

          by quiet in NC on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 09:45:12 PM PST

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          •  The point is, (5+ / 0-)

            parental leave doesn't ruin competitivity.  Besides, Canada manages well, and their wages are very comparable to ours.  Western Europe manages well, and their wages are very comparable to ours.  Japan manages well, and so forth.  

            Moreover, if a country like China, which has piss-poor labor treatment, can manage parental leave, what's our excuse.  And I say excuse because we don't have any reasons anymore, only excuses.  

            And let's not confuse 'competitivity' with 'cheap bosses'... that's precisely the attitude that fosters the income inequality that's gotten our economy to the lackluster state it is in today.

            Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

            by nominalize on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 11:09:00 PM PST

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    •  These same businesses do business in countries (4+ / 0-)

      that have paid family leave and live with it while fighting
      ferociously to make sure that Americans don't get it.

      Please!

      The elevation of appearance over substance, of celebrity over character, of short term gains over lasting achievement displays a poverty of ambition. It distracts you from what's truly important. - Barack Obama

      by helfenburg on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 04:28:46 AM PST

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