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  •  Kansans united (20+ / 0-)

    Look, Kansans voted in this group.  They will get what they deserve.  I just hope they don't want the rest of us to bail them out.

    No one is going to move there for low taxes and nothing else. There are no income taxes in a few states and believe me, that is not a draw to anyone productive. Entrepreneurial type know that you get what you pay for, and lack of money for schools roads and other amenities is just not worth the few thousand they might save.

    And, there are not really any tourist to pick up the sales tax tab like in states that have something to draw tourists.

    •  Yup - the crazies were elected (2+ / 0-)
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      and the electorate deserves all the pain it's going to get.

      Brownback wants his state to be a model. So do I.

    •  They (WE) are not all crazy! Just outnumbered! (10+ / 0-)

      Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed...

      by langstonhughesfan on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 05:39:57 PM PST

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      •  Amen to that! (6+ / 0-)

        As a member of one Kansas county who votes consistently Democatic every single election, I resent the above two statements.  And if anyone thinks their state is immune, I think they've got their heads in the sand.

        I may be worried more than many right now because my Mom is quickly getting to the point where we will need to avail ourselves of services WE paid for but Brownback stripped.  

        Furthermore, while I'm nearing what should be MY retirement age, I'm trying to work to maintain our household and help my mother.  However, the only job I can find is a 45 minute commute each way.  Add in chores and errands for Mom after work, and I'm 12-14 hours a day away from home.

        I mention this because, while I've got "great" insurance from the fed gov't, I'm in constant chronic pain.  I desperately need hip surgery, but because our family income has been cut by 2/3, I can't afford to pay the copays on this great insurance.  And now I worry the PTB are going to next clamp down on pain meds - the only thing that allows me to keep up this schedule.

        Thing is, I'm not alone in this mess.  We've got people communting from Lawrence and Topeka... not just KC.  Some are in wheelchairs or using canes, like me.  And every single one of -us- have voted democratic all our lives.  In fact, we have one who marched with Dr. King!

        So I DO get infuriated at the callousness of comments like:

        Yup - the crazies were elected
        and the electorate deserves all the pain it's going to get.
        Because when all is said and done, and the republicans and libertarians finally figure out that the Articles of Confederation gave way to the Constitution for a REASON, I don't think it's too much to hope that our brothers and sisters in arms in other "less red" states would reach out to those of us stripped, humilated, and yet still getting up every morning continually trying to turn the tide!
        •  I sincerely don't wish this fate on any state or (7+ / 0-)

          anyone. My point was simply that perhaps Republican small government types will only come to terms with the fact their their entire world view leads to stagnation, higher mortality rates and higher, not lower costs of living, when they are finally able to live their dream that becomes a nightmare.

          I am a Virginian who returned to Virginia almost 15 years ago to be closer to family and my husband and I planned to retire here. But, every day I turn around and find some horrible new policy or practice put into place by McDonnell and the Republicans who dominate the statehouse as they pass their ALEC and far right wing agenda. Unless the state makes a turnaround, we have completely lost our desire to remain here. People can and do make choices about where they live. Everyone I know in the DC burbs prefers to live in Maryland right now as opposed to Virginia.

          Right now the litmus test for Republican Red State stupidity combined with cruelty and callousness is the governors denying their states the Medicaid expansion offered under the ACA. They literally prefer that people die as opposed to providing life-saving government services. Disgusting.

          “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR

          by Phoebe Loosinhouse on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 02:10:27 AM PST

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    •  Exactly. (5+ / 0-)

      Why would any business move to Kansas when they can move to Texas or Florida, and get the same zero income tax?  Dallas, Houston, Austin, Miami, Tampa, Orlando... Kansas has.. Wichita?  It doesn't even have Kansas City, but a pale imitation.    

      How many executives are gonna move their companies to a state without even a single pro sports team to take their clients to?  Without a single beach to built a gawdy house on?  Where there's only six months of good golf weather a year?  With a small labor force that doesn't have enough immigrants to lower labor costs?  

      The list goes on and on... what has Kansas got that any other state doesn't?  That is what Brownback should be focusing on.  Not trying to copy other states.

      Conservatives need to realize that their Silent Moral Majority is neither silent, nor moral, nor a majority.

      by nominalize on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 09:50:33 PM PST

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      •  you are so right (3+ / 0-)
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        As someone who lives in western Kansas, let me tell you that there literally is nothing to move here for.
        Brownback is thinking the "magic" of low taxes will bring lots of people to the state to open businesses, but when your schools suck, your property taxes go up every year (because counties still have to pay for their schools, even if the state doesn't) why would they?
        It's very depressing to live here right now.

        “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

        by skohayes on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 03:47:46 AM PST

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    •  Actually Republicans voted in (2+ / 0-)
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      this group.  The Democrats and the elderly and the poor and the mentally ill and the school kids who will suffer from these budget cuts won't get what they "deserve".
      That's a disgusting thing to say and completely ignores those of us who are trying to change things.

      “We are not a nation that says ‘don’t ask, don’t tell.’ We are a nation that says ‘out of many, we are one.’” -Barack Obama

      by skohayes on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 03:41:47 AM PST

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