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  •  does this change the tiahrt amendment (4+ / 0-)
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    Eric Nelson, jck, lyvwyr101, annieli

    that nixed tracing guns?

    i thought police used gun tracing data to identify potential illegal gun sales or straw dogs? The tracing information showed how many times a gun dealer sold guns that ended up in crimes.

    "It is in the shelter of each other that people live." Irish Proverb

    by Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 05:23:35 PM PST

    •  there seems to be redundancy (2+ / 0-)
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      happymisanthropy, Eric Nelson

      IIRC BATF already has a bunch of laws covering these regulations already - they haven't been enforced or interpreted rigorously as a matter of administrative law rather than congressional legislation

      • to buy or attempt to buy or transfer a firearm, with the intent of delivering it to someone the transferor knows, "or has reasonable cause to believe, is prohibited by Federal or State law from possessing a firearm";
      to intentionally provide false or misleading information on a Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms firearms transaction form; and
      • to "promote, direct or facilitate" actions that violate the above prohibitions

      Warning - some snark above‽ (-9.50; -7.03)‽ "We're like a strip club with a million bouncers and no strippers." (HBO's Real Time, January 18, 2013)

      by annieli on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:09:52 PM PST

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      •  This is part of why a major part of the pushback (1+ / 0-)
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        against new laws is pointing out the need to enforce existing ones.  If the current laws are not being enforced, new ones won't help.

        •  Nonsense (0+ / 0-)

          Stronger laws and stronger enforcement would be effective.

          The push back is clearly motivated to prevent stronger laws and enforcement, mainly by gun advocates, some of whom seem to be obsessed with the topic and comment on little more; if you check the comment history of some of the RRKBAs you will find some of them, particularly some who recently joined Daily Kos, are effectively, spammers of the topic.

          What about my Daughter's future?

          by koNko on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 02:35:49 AM PST

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    •  The answer to your first question is... (2+ / 0-)

      Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

      by Meteor Blades on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 06:50:01 PM PST

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    •  Kossack Kirsten Gillibrand wrote about this bill.. (1+ / 0-)

      ..last month announcing its arrival.

      Senator Kirsten Gillibrand @ Daily Kos

      In 2009, I authored and first introduced The Gun Trafficking Prevention Act in the U.S. Senate which I will be re-introducing again this month. This important bill would empower local, state, and federal law enforcement to investigate and prosecute gun traffickers and their entire criminal networks, while protecting responsible, law-abiding gun owners.

      By going after corrupt gun dealers, establishing strong penalties and making gun trafficking a federal crime for the very first time -- from the person who buys the gun from the dealer, to the person illegally selling the gun out of the trunk of a car, to the kingpin that organizes the entire network - we can stem the flow of illegal guns that are coming into our city neighborhoods and cities around the country on a daily basis via criminal gun trafficking rings.

      Senator Schumer and I have urged Vice President Biden to include The Gun Trafficking Prevention Act in his task force's final list of recommendations, as well as Senator Schumer's Fix Gun Checks Act to ensure that those with criminal records are denied access to guns. I also support other common sense reforms, such as banning assault weapons and the high-capacity clips used to devastating effect in mass shootings that have become all to common in our country.

      She doesn't specifically mention the Tiahrt amendment but how can one run down straw purchsers/trafficers eg. without access to The National Tracing Center (NTC) of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives with the authority (and the funding)

      Maybe this is a draft with more pieces to follow?

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