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  •  re: imminence: (1+ / 0-)
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    VClib
    Translation: anyone associated with al-Qa’ida is always plotting against the United States, and would be attacking us if they could, so we don’t have the luxury of waiting around for specific evidence.
    Well, sort of.  The idea is that if a member of al-Qaeda is continually conducting business w/ other al-Qaeda members, then that's a good indicia that they're plotting something.

    I think it makes more sense to see this as something like a restatement of the second criteria of being an continual operational member.  As "imminence," it's pretty odd, but if you think of it as "continually involved member," it makes more sense.

    •  Slippery slope here (1+ / 0-)
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      Steven D

      Words like "associated" or "linked" are too vague to tell me what the relationship is. Plus, al-Qaeda-like groups have become more local in their aims. So does the U.S. have the right to kill them if they are plotting against their own government? What is a terrorist, any way, if s/he is not actually plotting a terrorist act?

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      by LiberalLady on Tue Feb 05, 2013 at 07:59:56 PM PST

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    •  Your classification of that criteria (0+ / 0-)

      makes a lot more sense than what the government is arguing. If that's the standard they actually want to use, then there should be a debate about whether it is appropriate to kill an American citizen who is, as you call it, a "continually involved member." It seems like an abuse of the word "imminent" to use it in this way, especially when most people will just hear the imminent threat criteria without knowing how it is defined.

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