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  •  Rec'd because your comment is good, but (8+ / 0-)

    I disagree with one sentence...

    The progressive impulse is that government action is always better.
    I think most progressives rely on history to guide them on whether government, private sector or non-profits will solve a particular problem.

    Can you give me some specific examples to bolster your statement?   I'm not looking to argue with you, but would be interested in finding out more why you wrote that particular comment.

    "Hate speech is a form of vandalism. It defaces the environment, and like a broken window, if left untended, signals to other hoodlums that the coast is clear to do more damage." -- Gregory Rodriguez

    by Naniboujou on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 06:18:06 AM PST

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    •  It was a generalization and so doesn't always (3+ / 0-)
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      fit everyone who self-identifies as a progressive.  But I would answer you rhetorically, if you don't mind.

      If you are a progressive, ask yourself what your 5 biggest issues are.  Then ask yourself what you want the government to do on those issues.  The stereotypical response that I was alluding to (and one that is born out of simply listening to the debate) is often the "government should spend more on X (education, healthcare, safety net) or there should be more regulation (guns, banks, pollution, etc.) and this should almost always be done at the federal level in addition to whatever is done at the state level."

      Is that fair and pretty accurate?  I'm sure that there are perhaps areas that you think government involvement has gone too far and perhaps you could list them.  But I would also think that you would get push back from your fellow progressives saying why they think your ideas are wrong in those instances.  Which is pretty much my point.

      Another way to phrase it would perhaps be that progressives are, I would argue, better at seeing the problems in society.  They see a problem and think of ways that the federal government could take actions to fix that problem.  Conservatives too often don't care to look at problems because they are philosophically opposed to a government solution so what good does it do to identify problems?  But where they are (sometimes) better at progressives is in examining the actual results of the government action that was put into action.

      Sound reasonable or am I still off a bit in your estimation?

      We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

      by theotherside on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 06:43:56 AM PST

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      •  I like your clarification. thanks. eom (2+ / 0-)
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        "Hate speech is a form of vandalism. It defaces the environment, and like a broken window, if left untended, signals to other hoodlums that the coast is clear to do more damage." -- Gregory Rodriguez

        by Naniboujou on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 06:48:38 AM PST

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