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  •  Then we'd have to (5+ / 0-)

    deal all over again with the civil rights-stripping that inevitably comes from warehousing the mentally ill. A good deal of abuse comes with, documented to have been worse in many cases than what this family did. All the way to fatal.

    •  In this day and age of nanny cams it might not get (3+ / 0-)
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      so bad.

      Treating people in lock up needs to be addressed.  It's not the perfect answer.  The street is just as bad.

      guns are fun v. hey buddy, watch what you are doing -- which side are you on?

      by 88kathy on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 09:28:44 AM PST

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    •  Worse in many cases? (2+ / 0-)
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      Close to starvation is not very far from fatal, methinks.

      He who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.

      by Sophie Amrain on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 10:35:58 AM PST

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      •  Yes it is, and I surely (1+ / 0-)
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        don't try to excuse this abuse from family. Makes me wonder if the kid's really that bad, or if Evil Stepmother (a regular archetype, just ask Walt Disney) is just... evil. And Dad's in there somewhere on the scale as well.

        I cannot imagine that if I'd made my kids sleep outdoors in cold weather that my neighbors wouldn't have had a big enough problem with it to at least report me to CPS. I mean, back in the day we got lots of officially authoritarian pass-outs from the teachers for kids to bring home urging us to report families if their kids showed up at our house without proper outerwear or acting hungry. Used to make me laugh, knowing kids (hell, I was a kid once, you couldn't pay me to take the time to actually put on a coat).

        In my experience as a parental unit (2 of my own, 3 adopted siblings, and got to raise one of our grandsons), kids loose on the block without proper outerwear are still as common as when I was that kid. And they all believe they're starving the minute they're done with their current meal or snack. Most never have to suffer real, abusive deprivation as this youngster did, though.

        What a heartbreaker. I hope this kid gets all the help he needs and will go on to make something of himself. I hope his abusive parents get their due too, and any other children in the home manage to escape without serious harm. Some people just shouldn't have kids. I wish more of them recognized that about themselves, BEFORE it's too late.

    •  Proper analysis and treatment (14+ / 0-)

      doesn't have to mean "warehousing" -- I've seen the results of mental illness in my own family, as well as what can happen when it's properly treated and the person housed in appropriate facilities. My brother-in-law has transitioned into "supportive care" housing, where he shares a house with 3 other adults with monthly house meetings and counseling sessions with his own guardian twice a month. (The county wants him to consider moving out to his own place, but both he and his family -- his mom, Mr. Scribe and myself -- think that would be a bad idea because the last thing he needs is isolation.)

      There's only one rule that I know of, babies -- goddammit, you've got to be kind. -- Kurt Vonnegut

      by Cali Scribe on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 11:23:55 AM PST

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