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  •  Conservatives make the claim that the USPS (0+ / 0-)

    is an inefficient operation that doesn't know what it's doing and we would be better off with the private sector taking over deliverying mail.

    Progressives say it is an efficient organization that knows exactly how to run  cost effectively given the fact that they need to have true nationwide delivery.

    This diary seems to be making the point that the post office does not know what they are doing and that they don't even know how to cut one day of service and do so at a significant cost savings.

    So are the conservatives right?  Is the Post Office so clueless that they don't even know how to cut costs in a manner that has minimal impact on their customers?

    Or do they actually know what they are doing and are true logistic experts and know how to cut one day of service that will save billions of dollars a year and have minimal impact on the overwhelming majority of their customers?  

    I know which one of these two scenarios I believe is more likely.  But if I'm wrong, perhaps we should privatize the USPS because the conservatives will have been proven right.

    We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

    by theotherside on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 03:49:25 AM PST

    •  The conservatives want USPS to fail... (0+ / 0-)

      The Postal Service was well run for the first couple centuries, in fact they pretty much invented logistics. Only recently have conservatives taken over micro-managing the Postal Service. Their plan is to make the Postal Service fail to "prove" their theory that government doesn't work while forcing parcel shippers to use the UPS/FDX duopoly that the conservative's wealthy donors own.

    •  Its not so much that they don't know whats up (0+ / 0-)

      Its that the Post Office is designed to run a certain way - that way is - mail delivery six days a week. The size of the offices and processing facilities, the mail trucks, the staff are all geared towards that. Taking out that extra day is not simply a case of not delivering the mail as the diary makes clear.

      UPS and FedEx are not - they have never, as far as I know, had weekend delivery - so their systems - processing, trucking, warehousing, are designed to deal with two days where packages aren't being sent to houses. If they decided to ADD Saturday delivery then they would likely be left with excess capacity, which would be a waste of money - does that make them a bad business?

      To give another example - in my county there are no alcohol sales on Sunday. You would think that businessmen would want the extra day to sell, particularly a weekend. But it turns out that they might lose money vs the current setup - you would have to staff up for an extra day and most people adjust their schedule by buying on Saturday or Monday.

      Same thing here - its not that the liquor store owners or UPS or the USPS are bad businessmen - its just that their business model is geared towards one thing, and making major changes isn't easy - especially for an organization with half a million employees and thousands of outlets.

      •  I understand what you are saying (0+ / 0-)

        but with all due respect I believe that concern is really over blown.  In early 1942, the United States had to dramatically alter it's entire economy to help support a war in two major theatres on opposite ends of the globe.  And they needed to figure out the logistics of it all and do so without computers.

        In 2013, I'm really, really, really confident that we are capable of reducing the mail service delivery days from 6 to 5 days a week (or even lower).  Yes, it's not as easy as many people think but it's not nearly as difficult to do as others suggest.

        And while aligning our postal delivery service with the needs of modern society isn't as "sexy" as going to the moon this debate does harken back to a more "can-do" era:

        We choose to go to the moon... (interrupted by applause) we choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too.
        50 years later we have people complaining about a relatively easy thing like reducing service 1 day a week.  God help us if we ever need to do something hard like balancing the budget or stopping climate change.....

        We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

        by theotherside on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 11:45:10 AM PST

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        •  The goal is to improve service.... (0+ / 0-)

          Cutting the days that service is provided will never accomplish that!

          •  That's interesting that you think that (0+ / 0-)

            when the USPS is running deficits of billions of dollars that the goal is to improve service.   I would think the number one goal should be to have an efficient operation that serves the needs of the country given the resources that we are willing to spend on that service.

            I'm ok with discussing any type of change that will bring the USPS in operational balance but I think the Saturday delivery is the very first change that will need to be made among many others.

            So how would you close the gap beside getting rid of the pre-funding of pensions requirement?

            We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein

            by theotherside on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 01:29:52 PM PST

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