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  •  Really. (0+ / 0-)

    Your 1,000 lb bomb will certainly wreak havoc, though not so sestructive as you seem to think.

    But, yeah, a single F16 strike can do more damage than a single Hellfire missile.

    That's not exactly rocket, or bomb, science.

    If you take out a terrorist in a House, you probably take out anybody else who's in the house, including sons, daughters, vistors, the cook, etc.

    The question was this: If you add 'em up, which kills more civilians?

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    by dinotrac on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 01:32:53 AM PST

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    •  the US miltary and executive branch (0+ / 0-)

      all but literally bends over backwards to avoid such deaths and you know it

      Hell if our grandfathers saw the level of accuracy and how low relatively speaking civilian casualites have been over the last 20 years it would likely blow their minds.

      My heart bleeds for any loss of life even our enemies but that doesn't blind me to the ugly necessicity of this either.

      And if you seriously think drones kill more people we're just not going agree

      •  You can't do it. (0+ / 0-)

        If people are in the house, they're cremated.

        Do you really think F-16s have killed more people than drones in the last year?

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        by dinotrac on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 05:14:03 AM PST

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        the US miltary and executive branch all but literally bends over backwards to avoid such deaths and you know it
        This is complete nonsense, as we know that the Obama administration doesn't even define almost half the population as civilian.

        If you're male and and adult you are automatically considered not to be a civilian.

        My heart bleeds for any loss of life even our enemies but that doesn't blind me to the ugly necessicity of this either.
        I'm sure this is talk you will hear at your average Al Qaeda meeting.
        •  Greenwald is a poor source (0+ / 0-)

          and I doubt pretty much everything he says as his agenda for the last 5 years has been pretty much obvious

          And thank you for your strawman

          •  qsdf (0+ / 0-)

            1. Give proof that Glenn Greenwald is a poor source. Back up your accusations.

            2. You believe that either the New York Times is lying, or Obama administration officials lied to the New York Times when they told them they don't consider male adults as civilians?

            •  qsdf (0+ / 0-)

              1. there's no proof I could offer you that would even begin to make you question Greenwald so no I'm not chasing that windmill.

              2. I think there's a teneous link there that may or may not be true but I on the average anyone anoymous source should be treated with absolute skepticism especially when it's saying something you want too hear.

              3. Regardless this is entirely off topic

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