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  •  Here's one simple example from your mention (13+ / 0-)

    of difficulties meeting standards:

    I wear Levis jeans. (sorry if that stamps me as hopelessly old-fashioned in the world of Lucky, Seven for ripping off humanity, and the rest. Ok, occasionally a pair of Gap jeans, but not often).

    So, all my old Levis jeans were made in the USA.   I went out and bought a pair of new jeans about a year ago and found out they weren't made in the US any more. Honduras, I think.  Well, they were OK, but they wore out rather quickly (and weren't any cheaper).

    So, I went to get another pair or two.  I picked out the same size and tried them on.  They were wayyy too tight.  I picked out the next size larger and they were about right.  Then I picked another color and that size was too large, so back to "the usual" size and it was OK, but that pair was 2" longer in the leg for the same measurement.

    WTF?  So, I asked the sales clerk about all this.   "Yes," he said, "the mfr reps have told us to expect up to 1" to 1.5" variation in the waist and a maximum of 2" variation in the leg to the stated size.  We're supposed to recommend that all our customers try on their Levis and not just buy the usual size."

    Why would that be?  "Since they've moved production overseas, rejection rates are way too high if they hold the makers to the size standards, so they allow greater variation to keep the rejects numbers down."

    Good grief.  And this is what the Levis mfr rep told the store.  Do you think it might be worse than that?  I do, having tried them all on.

    So, make it overseas, allow the products to be wildly "off" and sell them anyway.  I'd pay another $20 a pair to have them made in the USA with decent, lasting denim, and to the right size in the first place.

    But Levis doesn't give me that choice (yes, they do have "Made in the USA" "special" jeans, for something like $150 which is an insane price).  They'd rather just not have a decent name or reliable quality any more.  And the fit is nothing like it used to be, meaning consistent shape in the various parts.  

    This outsourcing business is hell on everything from beginning to end.  And not the least on the poor slave-labor condition workers overseas.

    "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

    by YucatanMan on Wed Feb 06, 2013 at 11:20:26 PM PST

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    •  Seriously. (3+ / 0-)
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      Back in the '90s, when Levi's first started to get pricey and their mfg. moved to Mexico, I bought some Calvin Klines, very cheap in Sam's. They are baggy and dumpy and people here insist I should not wear them out of the house. Even so, every bit of kit I have purchased here (UK) has to be line dried and it still wears out after 6 months. Those old baggies wear like elephant hide and I still love them.

      "We are monkeys with money and guns". Tom Waits

      by northsylvania on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 12:40:35 AM PST

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    •  USA made jeans (1+ / 0-)
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      Have bought jeans and shirts from this company, all have been well made

      •  I'd love to be able to try some on. I've become (0+ / 0-)

        distrustful of all sizes anymore.  Some pants are purposely made with larger measurements than the waist size shown.  So, I'm hesitant about mail order.

        And women's sizes are all over the map.  I saw a cool graphic showing that a 6 today might have been a 14 or 16 in the 1950s.  I don't understand anything about women's sizes, but it was a cool graphic. :-)

        "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

        by YucatanMan on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 11:09:25 AM PST

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