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  •  Im not disputing a GOP agenda (2+ / 0-)
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    MRobDC, sneakers563

    but who can sit here and say we don't need to reduce service?

    Its 2013!  Here is the PDF Report from the USPS predicting that by 2020 First Class Mail will be down by over 30% from its 2006 peak.  And that the decline in mail use will continue indefinitely.  And this was written in 2010 and the volume thus far is already lower than anticipated.

    Not to mention that what is propping this stuff up is the subsidized price of DIRECT MAIL.   I'd block that crap in a second if I could, but at a minimum, how about making the dead-tree spammers pay the same price we all pay to send mail through the USPS?

    And no one should be scheduling a medical devliery program at such a razor-thin margin of error that delaying the delivery of a prescription refill by 24 hours could put someone's life at stake.  That is irresponsible.

    Let me make clear:  I am NOT in favor of privatization.  I just want the USPS to adopt to the times and plan responsibility for less and less mail volume.  Not to mention I don't like my tax dollars being spent to make sure my unasked for pre-approved credit cards with their loanshark APR get to me 6 days a week!

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 08:13:46 AM PST

    •  That's All Very Nice (4+ / 0-)
      And no one should be scheduling a medical devliery program at such a razor-thin margin of error that delaying the delivery of a prescription refill by 24 hours could put someone's life at stake.  That is irresponsible.
      No, it's called dealing with the VA.  Which does not renew prescriptions except on its own schedule unless you scream and holler, and promises nothing other than "usually 10 days" and delivery by mail unless you take off from work and camp out at their pharmacy and hope that your assigned doctor is willing to bypass the system.

      I am not even going to discuss those waiting for benefits payments that don't automatically come on an EBT card.

      Your post is a living example of the reasons this is happening to the post office.  Since you don't need the mails, you don't have a clue about those who do, and who don't have access to the internet, or access to UPS and FedEx.  You clearly have no ability to empathize with them.  Flying home from DC yesterday I was regaled by a TV news story in which everyone sounded like you, and it infuriated me.

      Maybe come out of your privileged bubble next time, before you start labeling people 'irresponsible?"

      •  Are the meds sent as 1st class letters (1+ / 0-)
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        MRobDC

        or are they packages?  Because the proposal would continue Saturday delivery for packages.

        To believe that markets determine value is to believe that milk comes from plastic bottles. Bromley (1985)

        by sneakers563 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 08:42:59 AM PST

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      •  ah yes, "people like me" (1+ / 0-)
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        I do get prescription medicine by mail.  I've never had a problem.  I've had mail delivery interruptions related to weather, holidays, even bad traffic.  I have to deal with these.  Not having Saturday delivery will be another example of this.

        I get checks by mail.  I still pay a few bills by mail.  I have no problem with the USPS.

        I do not have any dealings with the VA, so I can't speak to that and can only take your word on the situation you describe.  But if one department is having some kind of efficiency or reliability issue with the service they provide, why don't we address THAT and not try to compensate for it by propping up a different national agency in a different area of service.

        I suppose that I and all the other people like me in our privileged bubbles incapable of empathy for anyone not like ourselves are just recklessly and cruelly looking to modernize an agency focused on a diminishing need.  

        How low would mail volume need to sink (not by government mandate but just that Americans. Use. It. Less.) before it might, just might, be time to start thinking about what the USPS should look like in the 21st century?

        Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

        by Wisper on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 08:46:54 AM PST

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        •  Yes, People Like You (0+ / 0-)

          Are you just simply incapable of taking yourself out of your own shoes and putting yourself into someone else's, someone with less education, leisure time or money? Seems so, since you're doubling down on having insulted all of those types of people by calling them "irresponsible" when you clearly don't have any experience living their lives or the systems they have to navigate.

          If you don't want to be "people like you" you might want to put a lid on your harsh judgments next time until you actually DO know something about what goes on.

    •  You said it yourself: "propped up" by direct mail (1+ / 0-)
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      Direct mail isn't cheap, and direct mailers handle a lot of the processing themselves, cutting down on the processing by USPS. USPS doesn't provide bulk mailing rates just to be nice. They do it to ensure a large volume of mail, complete with the huge amounts of postage required.

      I handle direct mail for my county Democratic Party. I know first-hand how expensive it is, even at the standard-mail presort rate. We send relevant information about the political process to voters. If we had to put a 46-cent stamp on every piece of mail, we'd have to abandon our mailing program--and doing so would be to the detriment of our local candidates.

      •  If you wanted to CALL people (0+ / 0-)

        to deliver this relevant information about the political process to voters, you would have to adhere to the federal mandate respecting citizens' wishes to NOT receive those calls.

        Why a discount rate to send out unsolicited information that happens to be written on a piece of paper?

        Now actually this specific example is not true, political calls like you describe are still allowed despite the Do Not Call registry (though many people are lobbying for that loophole to be shut down). But okay... create the same exceptions.  You are still allowed to send unsolicited mail to people for political reasons, to current or recent customers, etc. and you can do so at a reduced rate.

        But the mass dead-tree spamming gets STOPPED.  That would still take a huge chunk out of the daily volume of mail the USPS carries.

        Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

        by Wisper on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 08:54:14 AM PST

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