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  •  It worked. (11+ / 0-)

    Wonder how Democrats on this site explain the NRA using their money to support Republican candidates.
    I have seen this  question asked before and nobody came forward to provide an answer.

    Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

    by JoanMar on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 06:11:57 PM PST

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    •  That was one question (5+ / 0-)

      I didn't get an answer for today, so I settled for making them uncomfortable.

      “Now, I can imagine the shocking headlines you’ll print tomorrow morning: 'More guns,' you’ll claim, 'are the NRA’s answer to everything!'" -- Wayne LaPierre

      by tytalus on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 08:55:25 PM PST

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    •  I'll answer it. (3+ / 0-)

      I joined the NRA many, many years ago when I was very much a right-winger (it was the 90's, we experimented with a lot of mind-altering philosophies). I plonked down the money for a life membership and have not sent them one thin dime since then.

      While I was comfortable in the right wing for a few years, my adherence to their total philosophy was already in the process of eroding, even though I didn't know it at the time; after getting out of the Army and living in California and meeting different people (you know, Blacks, gays, Asians, bis, etc) I knew that their rhetoric about "those people" was hot air.

      When I went to live in Israel I had the NRA suspend my American Rifleman subscription since my parents didn't want it... I didn't miss it and in fact forgot about it. When I came back the politics I adhered to had begun to shift considerably more. Then, a tour in Iraq and return home in time to watch the Katrina debacle unfold and I realized that the only thing I had left in common with the GOP at all was a tepid support of their gun rights platforms, even though by then I felt that some controls would be a good idea.

      I also realized that, over the years, I had already come to agree with almost everything on the Democratic platform: Labor rights, Environment, Science over Superstition in the schools, treating minorities like human beings... So I switched and never regretted it. The NRA's platform is too radical and actually erodes goodwill for gun owners by forcing people to adhere to a party line that is obnoxious and destructive.

      So now, even though I am still technically a member of the organization, I've done nothing in support of the organization for over a decade, and in fact actively work to pursue political goals that they would find horrifying. I seem to be in good company, though, since a number of polls have pointed out recently that ordinary NRA members (ie, not "leadership"), also support a lot of laws and things like universal background checks.

      What Michael Moore's rationale was for joining the NRA I don't know, you'll have to ask him directly.

      I know this probably makes it harder to issue blanket condemnations and demonize everyone with an easy stroke of the keyboard; it's much easier to pass judgment over people when you think of them as a mindless horde instead of a collection of individuals, each with their own rationales and motivations, but... there we go. An answer.

      •  I appreciate your response. (7+ / 0-)

        I take issue with this:

        I know this probably makes it harder to issue blanket condemnations and demonize everyone with an easy stroke of the keyboard; it's much easier to pass judgment over people when you think of them as a mindless horde instead of a collection of individuals
        The NRA has become an arm of the GOP.
        I condemn the NRA as a lobby for gun and bullet manufacturers. I condemn them for putting filthy lucre ahead of human lives. I am certainly not condemning ordinary folks who are members of the NRA...even though I see no need for said ordinary folks to have weapons designed for the theater of war in their possession.
        And yes, I do think - as you did - Democratic members of the NRA should explain why they are paying dues to an entity which then turns around and use it to fund Republican causes.

        Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

        by JoanMar on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 09:21:04 AM PST

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        •  I realize that membership dues money (5+ / 0-)

          may well pale in comparison to the cash being directed to the NRA by gun manufacturers, not to mention those manufacturers' customers -- who frequently 'round up' the cost of their purchases, with the extra going straight to the NRA.

          Still, there is a fairly simple principle involved. If there is any sense of condemnation to be felt from my writing, perhaps that's a good sign. It may mean that after seeing what the NRA does, that the response was not cognitive dissonance, but remorse.

          I also looked up Michael Moore just to see what that was about, heh.

          Following the Columbine High School massacre, Moore acquired a life membership to the National Rifle Association (NRA). Moore said that he initially intended to become the NRA's president and dismantle it, but he soon dismissed the plan as too difficult.[24][25] Observers such as Dave Kopel noted that there was no chance of that happening;[26] authors David T. Hardy and Jason Clarke wrote about how Moore failed to discover that the NRA selects a president not by membership vote but by a vote of the board of directors.[27]
          Looks like they're trying to pad their membership numbers by offering some big discounts. Lifetime membership down from $1000 to $300, eh? Desperate much, NRA?

          “Now, I can imagine the shocking headlines you’ll print tomorrow morning: 'More guns,' you’ll claim, 'are the NRA’s answer to everything!'" -- Wayne LaPierre

          by tytalus on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 09:39:30 AM PST

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        •  Good point, and thanks for the talk-down. (2+ / 0-)
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          tytalus, JoanMar

          I needed that; apologies for the standoffishness on my part.

          Yes, the NRA has gone from a training & safety/awareness club to a bizarre machine pushing fear and paranoia. They've found there's money in it, and ethics be damned.

          Apart from that membership I got years ago I never sent them anything more, shortly after I joined they started drifting into much more right-wing crazy talk about UN invasion forces and stuff like that. I recognized the "tone" from UFO conspiracy buffs whose stuff I used to read, albeit for entertainment purposes only (I fancy myself a science fiction writer in my off time, so such stuff is grist for the mill). There's a... shrillness that one starts to recognize as a common factor in such things. I don't know how else to describe it.

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