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  •  More detailed than some but without... (4+ / 0-)
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    ...anything new. Without knowing what their definitions are, I do have a problem with barring all people from owning guns for this: crimes involving drugs. Does that mean someone convicted for marijuana (or any) drug possession would be barred from gun ownership?

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 04:33:44 PM PST

    •  Yeah I thought the same thing as you. When I (2+ / 0-)
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      Glen The Plumber, Meteor Blades

      write something like this, it isn't my editorial opinion.   I'm putting it out there as objectively as I can and leaving myself out of it.  

      I like to think that people can discuss ideas while a keeping a certain amount of personal distance from them.   Especially with a topic like this.   People end up making comments about each other and discussion of the topic never goes forward.

      About the marijuana, I'm assuming that it will be legalized  before Congress ever passes any gun safety legislation.  

      "Democracy is a life; and involves continual struggle." ---'Fighting Bob' LaFollette

      by leftreborn on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 05:04:57 PM PST

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    •  "drug-trafficking"...I would agree... (0+ / 0-)

      simple marijuana possession would be a little extreme...but trafficking I could see.


      We are not broke, we are being robbed.

      by Glen The Plumber on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 05:06:46 PM PST

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      •  There are degrees. In Arizona, we've heard (2+ / 0-)
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        stories for years about the Sinaloa cartel coming to Phoenix because this is where they buy guns.  As long ago as 2005, the Governor of Sinaloa state was bitterly complaining that all the guns used in violent crimes traced back to Phoenix.  And guess who made sure that nothing interrupted that business.  The NRA.  They were lobbying for a bill to keep multiple gun purchaser data  out of the hands of the FBI, ATF, and DOJ, and it was sponsored and introduced in the House by Justin Amash at the very same time he was sitting on the Committee that was investigating the alleged gun walking episode.  He even put out a public relations notice that said the "Government has no business tracking guns."

        "Democracy is a life; and involves continual struggle." ---'Fighting Bob' LaFollette

        by leftreborn on Thu Feb 07, 2013 at 05:20:35 PM PST

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    •  They should have added repeal of the Drug War (0+ / 0-)

      starting with amending the UN treaty that mandates it. Manufacture, importation, and dealing in seriously harmful drugs like meth should still be crimes. Addiction should be treated largely as a medical issue. Mental health and addiction treatment should be fully funded. That would get rid of the drug gangs.

      Many more details would have to be worked out, like legalizing and taxing marijuana, and regulating advertising for it.

      Most of Latin America is planning a conference on some of these matters. Why, they want to know, should they pay the price of drug gang violence to try to control something that is now legal in two US states?

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 12:43:48 PM PST

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