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  •  and: if anything, you're setting unions *back* (1+ / 0-)
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    Victor Ward

    by supporting the waitress.  she clearly should've been fired, and along comes the dipshitty, pompous union guy to tell us that, if she's going to get fired at least it should cost the employer a bucket of money so that she can get whatever level of due process you think she's entitled to.

    this is why people oppose unions: unions support jackasses.

    •  Let the "dipshitty pompous union guy" have a word (3+ / 0-)

      First - while I'm certainly a union supporter, I'm actually not a union member. I'm (dreaded) management! I'm the Organizing Director at Working America, and I also write a workplace advice column called "Dear David." You can find more of my work here: http://workingamerica.org/...

      Second, and more to your point - I did my best to acknowledge that both Pastor Bell and Applebee's were well within their legal rights to do what they did.

      With union protection, would Chelsea still have been fired? Quite possibly. But there would have been some sort of process to determine what exactly happened, rather than an instantaneous dismissal.

      As we know, there are thousands of other "Chelsea Welch's" fired every day for much less: wearing makeup, not wearing makeup, showing up 5 minutes late, showing up early...they have no recourse. Meanwhile, the customer can punish servers for the actions of the restaurant (the included gratuity). Time after time, only the servers suffer.

      Service workers face terrible conditions; conditions unheard of in other sectors. If anything comes out of this incident, I hope that does.

      -David

      •  To add on to this, (2+ / 0-)
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        a2nite, Dirtandiron

        unions often implement "second chance" policies that protect workers from losing their job over one issue.  So if Chelsea had been part of a union, then she, her union rep, and management could have had a sitdown chat and see if there was any way they could come to an agreement.

        Instead, you get another case of a customer treating an employee like a piece of garbage, and when that employee stands up for themselves in the slightest way, the customer demands their blood, and the employer offers up the employee as a sacrifice.  Employers who DO NOT stand up to customers are part of the problem, too.  And part of that is because they see their own employees as replaceable chattel, even though they constantly harp on those employees to produce more for less pay.  So instead of pissing off one woman who embarrassed herself in the eyes of God (and was just upset that everyone else saw it too,), they fire a waitress and waste who knows how much time and money interviewing, hiring, and training her replacement.

        "I don't want a unicorn. I want a fucking pegasus. And I want it to carry a flaming sword." -mahakali overdrive

        by Silvia Nightshade on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 10:27:06 AM PST

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      a2nite, Dirtandiron

      do you belong to a union?  Have you ever belonged to a union?  Because my mother and younger brother are BOTH in unions, and let me tell you, the union will not protect you if you're clearly violating [company] policies or being a jackass.  Their unions have made this very clear to them.  In fact, there is an issue right now where my mom works, where an office assisant applied for and was promoted to a position within the IT department as a business process analyst for datawarehousing.  He didn't meet the minimum qualifications; he lied.  He has two friends in IT who told him how to answer the questions in the interview because they wrote the questions for the interview.  The union?  They're furious, and the guy isn't going to keep his job when his 90-day probationary period is up.  The other two guys who helped are in some hot water with the union.

      So unions aren't the enemy here.  But thank you for your englightening perspective as to why people hate unions.  You may find your message more well received at such websites as Redstate or Free Republic.

      "I don't want a unicorn. I want a fucking pegasus. And I want it to carry a flaming sword." -mahakali overdrive

      by Silvia Nightshade on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 10:32:12 AM PST

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    •  Wurster is a troll. n/t (0+ / 0-)

      Where are all the jobs, Boehner?

      by Dirtandiron on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 05:34:52 AM PST

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