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  •  Please (8+ / 0-)

    Its pretty convenient that your definition of responsible are only people that agree with your solutions for gun control.

    To me a responsible firearm owner is one who uses their guns legally and practices proper firearm safety at all times.

    •  That's not enough anymore (16+ / 0-)

      Responsible gun owners in an age like this one have to be advocates for gun ownership that doesn't imperil society.  If they let the extremists advocate for their rights without protest, they are complicit with that extremist agenda.  There are times when you don't seek out politics, it seeks you out.

      Silence = complicity.  No way around it.

      Citizens United defeated by citizens, united.

      by Dallasdoc on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 06:19:17 AM PST

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    •  To me, a responsible gun owner (13+ / 0-)

      does not continue to belong to and support an organization whose priority is NOT about the responsible ownership of guns, but rather the proliferation of them and fueling the profits of  the weapons industry.

      If most of the NRA does not agree with its leadership, then they should resign and form a group that speaks to their principles.  That is the responsible thing to do.  I think this is what Dallasdoc was saying, in large part.

      "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

      by StellaRay on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 06:22:48 AM PST

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      •  Your statement can also be read as (0+ / 0-)

        Lets see if we can shame people into opposing the NRA in order to weaken it.  If we can achieve that, then we will finally be able to impose our will upon these people and cram the restrictions we want down their very throats.

        Apparently, CNN reports that as of about two weeks ago, there have been 500,000 new members joining the NRA since the Conn shooting, bringing their total to roughly 4.5 million.

        I am one of those.  I have been a gun owner with a concealed carry permit for a lot longer.  It wasn't until the screaming for gun bans in the wake of that incident that I felt it necessary to add my $35 to that of these other half a million Americans.  My purpose in doing so was nothing more than to oppose and stop the bans by any means necessary.  Background checks, enforcing laws, dealing with societal poverty, and a myriad of other things are and were fine, but no, the Left had to jump into the wacky end of the pool and start screaming for bans.

        •  Bully for you. (0+ / 0-)

          The only "bans" the left is interested in are on assault weapons and munitions, and no apologies for it.  

          You think you need the right to have a weapon of mass murder, and I think I have a right to be free from that threat.  So we'll see where it goes.

          However, make no mistake about it, I find your need to arm yourself to the teeth to be crazy, as you find my need for a more peaceful, less violent society to be "wacky."

          "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

          by StellaRay on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 04:21:08 PM PST

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