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  •  Thank you. n/t (6+ / 0-)

    "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

    by Onomastic on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 10:57:45 AM PST

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    •  When I go into any diary on the topic (8+ / 0-)

      of gun violence, I am often surprised to read hundreds of eloquent comments which still somehow don't address the issue of race -- which is the elephant in the room in the matter of gun-related deaths.

      We need to have that talk.

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      by mahakali overdrive on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 11:01:23 AM PST

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      •  As they say in New Orleans, "True dat." (8+ / 0-)

        I have seen a number of observations to the effect that if the missing or dead kid is a pretty white girl, Nancy Grace is all over it.  

        If it is a teenager of either gender who happens to be of African or Hispanic descent.......crickets.  

        MO, I have no answers to the question.  Just more questions.  Damn.  

        The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. - Sun Tzu

        by Otteray Scribe on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 12:10:48 PM PST

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        •  S. Epatha Merkeson-who played Lt. Anita van Burenc (0+ / 0-)

          on Law & Order hosts a new show called "Find Our Missing"
          on TV One specifically focuses on missing African Americans and Hispanics to specifically counteract the so called Nancy Grace syndrome. It fills a badly needed gap in focusing a spotlight on these cases.  

          (I say so called because Nancy Grace has extensively covered many cases of missing and/or murdered people of all races, she is most definitely an advocate for victim's and their families and knows what they are going through having lost her fiance' to murder and then going to law school and becoming a prosecutor. She gets a bad rap that she doesn't deserve, I don't always agree with her techniques, but I greatly respect and admire her and quite frankly, it is because of some of her techniques that these cases get so much media coverage, so in all likelihood, that's the method to her madness. She cares very much about these victims and getting justice for them and the missing person cases that don't get solved haunt her and she doesn't forget about them, she regularly airs updates on them.)

          "An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity" Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr..

          by mindara on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 10:40:42 PM PST

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      •  We've needed to have "that talk" for a (8+ / 0-)

        long, long, time.

        We both know why it hasn't happened.

        "Compassion is not weakness, and concern for the unfortunate is not socialism." Hubert H. Humphrey

        by Onomastic on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 12:18:20 PM PST

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        •  And I will keep raising it every single time (8+ / 0-)

          And hope others do as well. Maybe purposefully so? To draw attention to the asymmetry here.

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          by mahakali overdrive on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 12:24:51 PM PST

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          •  It feels rare to see use of data (5+ / 0-)

            and statistical analysis when engaging with the pro-regulation community here.  Though quite frankly, I'm not sure the larger nationwide 2A proponent community is anymore sympathetic to the issues of racial and disadvantaged asymmetries when addressing the rights/control debate.

            If there was anything that should unite progressives, though, it is on this exact point ... but alas, I do despair that it gets lost and ignored in the murky and uncomfortable mists of white privilege.

          •  I've tried, from the bottom of my heart I have (3+ / 0-)
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            tried.

            I have a co-worker who's become a dear friend over the past 2 yrs and he's lost 4 close friends in 7 months and just about a month ago his younger brother was shot, here in Buffalo.

            The tragedy goes unmentioned in the daily news, if spoken of, snips here and there.  

            The "Missing White Woman Syndrome". Our media is racist in so many ways and very few can see it.

            Thank you for bringing this up, again.

            -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

            by gerrilea on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 08:42:53 PM PST

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            •  In no way do I wish to deflect from (5+ / 0-)

              mass murders like Sandy Hook. Like the woman in this diary, this had personal connections for me. I have generally followed the issue of mass murders for decades. Everyone needs a hobby, I suppose. I've read about all of them.

              But the issue has since branched out to a question of gun violence in general, very clearly, as per most Progressives' positions. Good. I would then like to discuss gun violence as it actually is and also, as it has been, dating right back to Malcolm X's reasons for advocating arming African-Americans to the current tragedy amongst poor and non-white, inner-city youth.

              We need to take a stand.

              I have always been deeply committed to absolute civil rights and equality for all. I believe every person is equally important, and this includes all those who go unnoticed and unnamed in the media. Thus I would like to draw far, far more attention to gun violence in America myself. We've been silent on this matter for too long.

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              by mahakali overdrive on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 09:14:12 PM PST

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