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    ancblu, Dogs are fuzzy

    Pathos is certainly the most powerful tool for propaganda as well. I think that's what you're saying. It's also been a profound factor in the preservation of cultural memory, as mentioned in regard to the Holocaust museums, Abu Ghraib, and Ethiopia, as mentioned. So it's naturally a double-edged sword. All rhetorical appeals are. All of them. They all can be used for good or ill. What sets pathos apart is that it's elicits an emotional reaction. The question is really which reaction people need to have in the matter of gun control. I would say they need to have an emotional reaction, an informed reaction in regard to data and information, and also a credible source.

    So all three are quite requisite to create a rounded view of this picture.

    This is why I advocate for diaries which present what some have called "tedious detail" (logos) as well as ones like this which provide images of victims (pathos).

    Ethos-based diaries are a little harder here but something like the President's stance of Sen. Gillibrand's statements would qualify.

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    by mahakali overdrive on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 08:16:37 PM PST

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    •  The dichotomy or "double-edged sword" (1+ / 0-)
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      SwedishJewfish

      you describe is certainly true ... which reveals the  extraordinary power of pathos that you and I both recognize.  

      With respect to pathos, it can be evoked equally by either side in this polarizing debate.  Fear and anger are the impulses unleashed ... with a predictable fight (or flee) response to assaults on matters perceived essential to our self-identity. The pro-2A groups are certainly very skilled and effective in using appeal to emotion and I suppose it is not unreasonable to fight fire with fire, however corrosive.

      As a personal matter, I am much more inclined toward ethos as the pathway to constructive resolution in this great debate.

      In another sub-thread you emphasized the asymmetric impact of gun violence on racial minorities and the under-privileged. Even when comparing international firearm homicide rates (where good data is available), the clearest predictor of increased firearm violence is prevalent economic disadvantage.

      If the control/rights debate is best understood on these terms, the moral imperative lies with redressing the societal inequalities as the more effective and just solution.

      If you are so inspired to diary these issues -- based on your earlier thread comment -- I believe this would be a very important contribution to this topic on DK and I would enjoy participating in it.

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