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  •  Using renewables doesn't keep coal in the ground (1+ / 0-)
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    as long as the Chinese are willing to buy it. (That's true for tarsands oil and coal from the US & Canada as well.) That's why measuring carbon impact country-by-country can be misleading -- if you count where it's burned rather than where it's mined.

    We need both pressure to use renewables here (wherever "here" is for you) AND pressure to shut down mining/drilling/transporting fossil fuels, so they can't be sold and burned "there."

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      Yes, reducing our coal consumption does not mean that coal will stay in the ground. Coal companies in the US are trying to ramp up exports for reduced domestic consumption. The trick is to reduce global demand so there is no market. As much as I agree that we should stop extraction for export, politically that is a hard sell. Coal state Dems have been as bad as Repubs on tightening environmental laws related to extraction. I suspect the only workable strategy would be to suppress global demand with renewables and impose a carbon excise tax on exported fossil fuels.

      Be radical in your compassion.

      by DWG on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 05:47:43 PM PST

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