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  •  The friggin Unabomber says things (13+ / 0-)

    I agree with, but that doesn't mean I think he's not nuts as the day is long or that he totally ruined what he had to say by killing people.

    Terrorism stains any legitimate message it might have once had.

    Terrorists never seem to figure this out.

    The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

    by xxdr zombiexx on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 05:12:09 AM PST

    •  that is the problem with judging insanity (5+ / 0-)

      in reading another Kossack's diary about his son being set up by an undercover narc, I went to the original news article and was struck by many people who asserted the boy, who is autistic, is liable for what he supposedly did (supplying drugs to an officer) because he can discern right from wrong.  This is the crux of determining mental illness.  The legal standard of knowing right from wrong is archaic because many people with social handicaps do not recognize right from wrong or are unable to conform their behavior to the social norm or are unable to extrapolate from one situation to another so that they may see one act as wrong but are unable to extrapolate that knowledge to related situations.

      I am saying this poorly but it comes down the this guy had some sort of problem or he would have realized, as you said, that his actions would completely destroy his message esp. since it appears at least some of his victims were chosen at random and so his actions could not be considered "Going Postal"    

      •  Great point (2+ / 0-)
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        carver, erratic

        About knowing right from wrong.

        This is maybe where the Unabomber differed from McVeigh and Dorner. The latter two seem to have acknowledged their ills and the Unabomber was more a rambling lunatic.

        There's still plenty of facts to come out about Dorner and this whole situation.

        The entry is meant to be my preliminary thoughts on this matter.

        Thanks for your contribution.

        •  thank you for your reply (2+ / 0-)
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          carver, erratic

          As noted above, the recent diary about a Kossack's son being targeted by a narc and the comment section of his hometown paper got me to thinking about the legal definition of sanity and how deficient it is in this day and age as we have much more understanding of abnormal psychology than we had a century or even a couple of decades ago.

          For example a kid may "know" selling drugs is wrong but also knows that he is given drugs daily for his illnesses.  When a friend approaches him about needing his assistance in procuring weed to help him with pain, the commentators assumed the kid was able to extrapolate sufficiently to realize that the drugs he received are legal (not just necessary) while weed (which may be necessary like his meds) is illegal.  It further assumes he is able to overcome the pressure of pleasing his friend who made over 50 requests to the student to buy weed when many autism sufferers are unable to cope in certain high pressure social situations.

          The problem lies for many people is they have not yet had to deal with mental illness in their lives or families though 1/3 of all Americans will eventually have mental health problems in their lives  

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