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  •  I don't entirely agree (2+ / 0-)
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    Peace Missile, el vasco

    Countless studies have shown a link between violent vids and real world violence. And I sure as hell wouldn't raise my kid on them.

    This is a true story. A 11 yr old kid who had been friends with my kid, by day his dad worked making drones. Dad was a gun nut too. One day I'm driving the kids somewhere, and from the backseat, this kid says to my kid "suicide is so cool" .  And I thought, oh great a future school shooter.

    Where did that come from? The vids? The guns? The drones?

    It came from all of those things, I'd say.

    •  amen, Rizzo. And remember the real reason these (1+ / 0-)
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      Rizzo

      videos are out there:  they make a handful of people a lot of money.  They could care less about the consequences.

      ecstatically baffled

      by el vasco on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 09:04:07 AM PST

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      •  Tis true (partly), its a capitalist society (0+ / 0-)

        I, being an unabashed socialist "pinko-commie" , might wish it not not be true or different, but it is infact a capitalist society, and "it" just doesn't mean, Amerikkka, but the whole world is one big global economy based on capitalism despite many nations being declared otherwise, like China, is actually more capitalist in its trades and exchanges with other nations including the US, than one would like.

        Be that as it may, yes, the entertainmet industry, including those works we may regard as art, is a business, and the point there is...?
        Should they work/do you wish them to work for free?

        Not very friendly to labor, are you? In a capitalist society, its labor and the labor movement the 99% depend upon to get by.

        Even in the past, prior to the industrial revolution and electricity, all forms or art and entertainment were made, not for the sheer enjoyment of either the process of the work, or the finished product, but for money, and profit. You wouldn't expect Michaelango to paint the Sistine Chapel, or sculpt David or Da Vinci paint the Mona Lisa for free, right?

        Or literature, both before electricity or the printing press, and today, people get paid to write whether its the most brilliant thing ever, or its tripe, some one gets paid to write "50 shades of Grey", and this is a great evil, how, exactly?

        Not to say, I don't have my own crituques in this area, I just state why I have such objections when I do, instead of your hiding behind your fear and paranoia behind "violent media".

        "They could care less about the consequences."

        Who are "they" (and be specific) and what are the " consequences" (again, be specific)

    •  No, they Haven't (2+ / 0-)
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      KenBee, AaronInSanDiego

      The studies have shown a link between violent video games and aggression (aggression as defined in the lab, which is defined far, far, more broadly than just violent behavior.) No study has ever found a correlation between video game violence and violent behavior. None.

    •  Most of the problems with media violence (0+ / 0-)

      could be solved if we did a better job explaining the difference between "Real" and "Pretend"

      You may think that. I couldn't possibly comment.-- Francis Urqhart

      by Johnny Q on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 01:46:23 PM PST

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    •  Um... no. (0+ / 0-)

      "Countless studies have shown a link between violent vids and real world violence."

      No. They haven't. Next.

      "And I sure as hell wouldn't raise my kid on them."

      And what does that have to do with violent games? Is there any other age inapproriate things you like to declare you won't raise your kids on spontaneously, or atleast until they are of age?

      "And I sure as hell wouldn't raise my kid on violent video games."

      "And I sure as hell wouldn't raise my kid on violent movies and TV."

      "And I sure as hell wouldn't raise my kid on violent literature."

      "And I sure as hell wouldn't raise my kid to drive an automobile. Until age 16. Or legal age of driving in state of residence."

      "And I sure as hell wouldn't raise my kid on alcohol consumption. Unitl age 21. Unless he wants a kegger at my house at age 18. And
      I can hang out."

      "And I sure as hell wouldn't raise my kid on bjs and handjobs by hookers. Until age 18. And only if I supervise. Extensively."

      These declarations, for example.

      ROFTLMAO!!!

      I'm sorry, I got carried away, you made it too easy. Again, another low-information voter who doesn't know or won't acknowledge video games are a medium of content, which has varying degrees of age appropriateness, like R-ratred movies, or TV shows on HBO, and are not just some "kid's toy", which that belief is REEEALLLY getting so cliche its annoying.

      This is a true story. A man on the internet by the username Rizzo told me of a story of AN 11 yr old kid who had been friends with his, by day his dad worked making drones. Dad was a gun nut too. One day I'm driving the kids somewhere, and from the backseat, this kid says to my kid "suicide is so cool", to which I replied, "c00l st0ry br0!"

      Not back to our regularly scheduled debate.

      "Where did that come from? The vids? The guns? The drones?

      It came from all of those things, I'd say."

      Based on what? I don't think the insides on a human being's orifice suffices as credibility to back up such claims, because if it did , my own back orifice would like to strongly disagree with yours.

      Where did that come from? The unicorns? The orcs? The elves at the North Pole?

      It came from all of those things, I'd say. /snark

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