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  •  I'm tired of midwesterners whining (3+ / 0-)
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    Rick Aucoin, ahumbleopinion, MrJersey

    about republican governers and legislatures doing things the voters claim they didn't expect to be done.

    WTF did they think the governors would do, govern as democrats?  Apparently so.

    "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

    by Subterranean on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 12:14:17 PM PST

    •  The Tea Party was powerful here for a time (2+ / 0-)
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      OhioNatureMom, a2nite

      There's a huge anti-tax sentiment in Ohio that has always been there, and the Tea Party rode that wave to the Governor's mansion. But there was some buyers remorse after SB5, and voters mobilized and defeated it.

      Repubs in Midwestern states are ramping up their agendas because they know thier days may be numbered as they show their true colors and voters don't like what they see.

      In my county, the local Tea Party was powerful, even sneaking a couple "Tea Party Democrats" into office. But the Teabaggers kept going to school board meetings and harassing board members and school administrators, trying to bully them into making cuts. People are starting to not like that, and I imagine similar things are happening to other Tea Party groups in the Midwest.

      Some would say that I'm off my gourd. I would say that I am a gourd.

      by Hubbard Squash on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 12:23:32 PM PST

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      •  Actually, the Tea Party had little to do (9+ / 0-)

        with Kasich's election. He barely squeaked into office. Like many Republicans, that is never an occasion for humility or considering that he might be better off working with people with different ideas. A less than 49% vote to a Republican means they've gamed the system and it's now time to ram their ideas down people's throats while they have the opportunity.

        Jon Husted is a dick.

        by anastasia p on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 12:30:15 PM PST

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        •  Wow... just.... (0+ / 0-)

          wow... I... just... but.... they...

          What you're saying is just so completely different than what I saw on the ground and what the facts in Ohio say. That small margin was the Tea Party. They were the difference.

          The Tea Party in Portage county was extremely active, and no doubt they and other Tea Parties delivered enough votes to Kasich to tip it. There was Tea Party fever here, we elected our first Republican county commissioner that I can ever remember.

          But it's your diary. And I'm gonna get out of here before I get myself banned. Later.

          Some would say that I'm off my gourd. I would say that I am a gourd.

          by Hubbard Squash on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 12:56:49 PM PST

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          •  What you "see on the ground" (2+ / 0-)
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            a2nite, Silvia Nightshade

            is always a tiny tiny tiny sliver of the overall picture, exactly what we discussed at the meeting last night about the 2014 campaign. We talked about the danger of basing your campaign thinking on emotions and gut feelings and the handful of neighbors you have access to.

            No one can ever project a statewide picture based on their own immediate experience, not me up here in Cuyahoga, or the fightin' Dems in blood-red Warren County (hi, Bethe!) or you out there in Portage which produced less than 50,000 of the nearly four million votes cast for governor. You are a teensy microcosm. We are a slightly larger one. Even if "Tea Party fever" swept ALL of Portage County (and I have plenty of activist friends in Portage I can check with), it would still be piffling. Oh — you DO know that Barack Obama and Sherrod Brown carried Portage by a healthy margin, don't you? So the fever can't be TOO strong.

            Jon Husted is a dick.

            by anastasia p on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 03:00:13 PM PST

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    •  The reason Kasich was elected was complex (4+ / 0-)

      But he did not even get 49% of the vote in 2010. We'll make sure he gets less next time.

      Jon Husted is a dick.

      by anastasia p on Fri Feb 08, 2013 at 12:28:17 PM PST

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