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  •  Are you joking? Telling fat people they may die (6+ / 0-)

    from their weight, and that they are at high risk of heart attacks and strokes -- based on nothing except a person's weight/BMI --- is what almost all doctors and everyone else does every single day.

    There is a constant drumbeat of threats and shame for walking around being overweight, i.e., "obviously and intentionally unhealthy" that all overweight people hear continuously. This is the new smoking, the new cultural message of our time with "anti-obesity" campaigns everywhere now.

    It is not considered fortune-telling to say that being that heavy is a serious health risk, it is considered common knowledge, and a perfectly valid and fair way to try to pressure heavier people into trying to "lose" weight.

    If Chris Christie is going to run for president, he better get used to hearing this concern about his health and fitness for office, because it's going to be out there. He tries to deflect it by eating donuts on Letterman, but he should know that not everyone is going to just laugh along and accept him as a fat man, be cool with it while he runs for president.

    His behavior in responding to the criticisms and concerns is more relevant than his weight in terms of his fitness for the office, in my opinion. But the idea that doctors, and everyone else for that matter don't tell people that being fat will kill them is nonsense. They do it all the time. Just go to any diary on this site about weight issues and you will see a lot of people saying it to other people right here.

    •  And they are wrong to do so. (3+ / 0-)
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      Other doctors being stupid does not excuse her own professional abuse.

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      by dinotrac on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 08:48:47 AM PST

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    •  As a grill cook at a hospital (2+ / 0-)
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      I frequently cringe when obese folk pull into the grill on their scooters and get the bacon cheeseburger and fries. At least I don't salt my fries. The healthiest food I have to serve is the grilled chicken, which marinates in non-fat italian dressing and is seasoned and baked in the convention ovens. I often joke that I man the enemy lines in the obesity epidemic, but if a person can't even carry their own weight, they need to pull into the salad bar more often than the grill! Even worse is when a patient gets family members to wheel them to the cafeteria to supplement the calories the dietitians give them while in the hospital. At base, it's all addictive behavior, very hard to change.

      •  I'm always surprised by what is served in hospital (3+ / 0-)

        A very very very long time ago, I worked as a "tray girl" at a hospital...and I remember the food being different, more bland or boring - the healthy stuff!

        My father-in-law just got out of the hospital (ugh!  health care system!!!) and I was surprised by how much breaded yuck and soda!!! he was able to have.  Nearly unlimited amounts of soda!

        He's a diabetic, for cripesakes!

        I do NOT understand hospital food service.

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        by Marjmar on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 09:31:17 AM PST

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        •  I seem to recall... (0+ / 0-)

          ...that one problem they were having with patients in the hospital was that the food was so bland and unappetizing that people wouldn't eat it and just were not getting enough calories which was not good for their recovery. I think the conclusion was that it was better for the patients' recovery to eat enough and for the short time (weeks) they are usually in the hospital, following whatever bad habits they already had wasn't going to hurt them.

          People in hospitals now, on the average, are quite a bit sicker than they were 40 years ago (due to more outpatient procedures and moving people to facilities offering lower levels of care earlier). Changing a person's "habits" is probably not very effective while they are acutely ill and unlikely to "stick" -- once they recover, their doctor can try to get them to do so.

          •  That makes sense. (0+ / 0-)

            Still...healthy food doesn't have to be bland and tasteless.

            My guess was it's just easier to prepare from premade stuff than cook fresh for a proverbial army...

            I think the soda pop is what surprised me the most.

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            by Marjmar on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 04:27:36 PM PST

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            •  Patients... (0+ / 0-)

              ...probably tend to eat what they are familiar with and tend to be less likely to eat something they are not familiar with (esp. if their appetite is depressed).

              The soda pop for a diabetic does seem strange though -- maybe they figured they could adjust blood sugar levels w/meds so it didn't matter?

      •  Should hospital serve unhealthy foods to anybody? (0+ / 0-)

        Yikes, a hospital cafeteria serving bacon cheeseburgers and fries?

        Those foods aren't healthy fare in smaller bodies than in bigger bodies.

        From time to time over the years, I've eaten in the cafeteria at the hospital near me when I've been visiting patients. As someone who follows a whole-foods, plant-based, diet, I've been happy to see changes in what the cafeteria offers.

        At one time, I found little I could eat. They were serving a lot of things like your bacon cheeseburger and fries. Now, they have far more options, like steamed veggies (without added oils) and brown rice.

        Obviously, I wouldn't eat your grilled chicken, either, which I consider just as unhealthy as the cheeseburger.

        •  The cafeteria is huge (0+ / 0-)

          we serve between 2-2.5K customers a day. Most are hospital staff, medical students, visitors etc. Renovations at the Montifiore kitchen/cafeteria last year required shutting the grill down for a while in their (much) smaller cafeteria. The management was getting complaints that verged on death threats. Pittsburgh loves fatty foods, and has a strong PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals) presence :)

    •  I don't even like that term, anti-obesity. (3+ / 0-)
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      Even though Michelle Obama has adopted it. "Anti-obesity"? How about "Pro-healthy-eating", or "Pro-movement"? A focus on the positive is just so much more effective, psychologically. If I have learned nothing else over my years as a teacher, I have learned that.

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      by kareylou on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 09:36:00 AM PST

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