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  •  During your accusations upthread about FPers (0+ / 0-)

    saying that the website was fraudulent, which I never saw, but certainly could have missed, you mentioned that you sent them

    documents that showed Tree Climbers was a legitimate 501(c)3 non-profit organization
    If it is still pending, and I understand almost everything IRS related takes for fucking ever except when they want to come get your money, then that wouldn't have been a document that proved anything.

    I am aware that people can still donate when non profit status is pending but the tax deduction cannot be used until it is no longer pending. By your post I thought it had been authorized and not updated on the site. Both yours and Roxine's sigs are currently asking for support and donations with a link to the website so your are actively fundraising.

    During the time when you arrived and child abuse was such a strong topic on DK you and others were rightly going about posting about using trigger warnings so I was a little surprised to see that picture on the opening page of your website. As Roxine says above it is one of many things on the site that are triggering and that it can't be helped if the subject is to be dealt with. I understand that, but that one picture in particular set off all sorts of things in me and totally turned me off of the website.
    It is very nearly pornographic.

    Also some of the pictures of dead and mutilated people in one of your earlier blog posts does not relay a feeling of the website being a safe place for anyone that may stumble on them.

    •  What picture? (3+ / 0-)
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      I went to the Tree Climbers website and I can't see any picture that is offensive or triggering. I clicked on all the navigation tabs and couldn't find anything "nearly pornographic".

      As someone with PTSD from childhood abuse I have always found Swedish Jewfish to be particularly consistent with providing trigger warnings.  I don't understand your comments at all.

    •  I'm sorry it triggered you like that (3+ / 0-)
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      It's a picture of a man holding a child's hand, leading them somewhere. It would be totally innocuous for most people, even cute. (IIRC, it's a stock photo found under the theme "father and child") which is why it was used to illustrate the concept of children being abused most often by those they trust. I don't see how it could be called "pornographic", but again, sorry if brought up stuff like that for you.

      As far as "mutilated and dead bodies" I assume you are talking about the photos of the Mei Lei Massacre and Emmitt Till. Those are both historical photo's that have been widely seen. There are trigger warnings.

      In any case, we have never been a warm and fuzzy, save the children organization or one that aims to dilute or sanitize the realities of child rape, we are about advocacy first and foremost. Sometimes that means speaking uncomfortable truths, or writing about things that are considered taboo, using language that may make people feel squeamish. It is not for everyone. There is no one size fits all approach when it comes to this issue. But for every person who is turned off by it, there are many who feel liberated by it and appreciate the frankness and honesty we use to approach this topic. We are always looking to improve though, so again I'll take your criticisms into consideration when we revamp the site.

      As for actively fundraising by virtue of a link in our signature, I think we may have a different definition of what that means. Suffice it to say, we really do not generate donations from this site...I can't remember the last time we have. That isn't why either one of us are here, or else you would see us holding fundraising diaries and actively seeking out financial contributions.  

      You must work-we must all work-to make a world that is worthy of its children -Pablo Casals Please support TREE Climbers for victims of child sexual abuse and exploitation.

      by SwedishJewfish on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 08:56:51 AM PST

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      •  well (0+ / 0-)

        I do think you should take some of this into consideration.
        That man's hand is in an unnatural position as far as I'm concerned. Try it. I held my dad's index finger.
        As for the pics of Mei Lei and Emmett Till
        When i saw them I had just scrolled through the blog looking for recent posts and came across the pics of the dead. So there was no warning that I saw. It may be there but I didn't see it just scrolling through. You might take that into consideration and bury some of that stuff behind links.

        But more to the point regarding your actions on this website, I  think that you should stop repetitively stating that FPers accused you of fraud without links showing just that. I think it's more a matter of ignoring your pleas for confirmation from what I've seen. If you want to use the site to further your cause it would be better if you didn't try to make the staff look bad.

        I wish you the best of luck for whatever good you and Roxine can accomplish with your charity.

        •  Well to be clear (1+ / 0-)
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          I was referring to the post by KJG.  Perhaps I should have said "a front pager" instead of "front pagers" which could be construed as plural. There was one other FP'er who got involved in some of the mud-slinging, but I don't remember what they said specifically, and don't really care to.

          I take issue with how the staff handled this situation, and have made that very clear to them both privately and publicly. I was begging them to intervene from the moment I got confirmation that TN was behind the whole "stalker" thing, because I knew  once that came out all hell was going to break loose. I think the way they handled the entire ordeal was a disservice not just to me but every member of this site. I no longer consider this a platform for my cause, certainly not the charity. I've been meaning to change my signature anyways, since I don't want those two parts of my life co-mingling anymore.

          But in any case, thanks for the well wishes, and I will see what I can do about providing more layers of warning over certain parts of the site. That seems like a reasonable solution.

          You must work-we must all work-to make a world that is worthy of its children -Pablo Casals Please support TREE Climbers for victims of child sexual abuse and exploitation.

          by SwedishJewfish on Sat Feb 09, 2013 at 10:45:48 AM PST

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