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  •  Then we simply shouldn't vote for anyone over (25+ / 0-)

    65.

    Old age is known to be lethal.

    How about smokers?

    "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

    by JesseCW on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 06:45:36 AM PST

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    •  Harrison, Buchanan, Reagan (3+ / 0-)
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      only a handful of presidents have been over 65 when elected

      and since the health risks of smoking have been made more widely known, any presidents who smoked have kept it on the down low.  When was the last time you saw a presidential candidate with a cigarette in his or her mouth?

      Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
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      by TrueBlueMajority on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 08:22:16 AM PST

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      •  not to mention the fact that (2+ / 0-)

        one of those three began suffering from alzheimer's-based dementia early in his second term.

        health factors, of any sort -- whether it was reagans age, kennedys addisons disease and addiction to barbituates, whether its obamas smoking habit, or christie's obesity -- these are all fair game, and they should be.

      •  What's that you say? Presidents hide health (6+ / 0-)

        problems?

        So...the problem with obesity is...you can't hide it?

        "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

        by JesseCW on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 08:45:31 AM PST

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        •  think about what you just said (5+ / 0-)

          why do you think thos three presidents hid their health problems? because the office is too demanding to risk electing someone who cant carry out their duties. the problem isnt that you cant hide obesity. you're essentially saying that the only crime that someone arrested for bank robbery committed was being caught.

          the problem here are the health risks associated with obesity. the fact of it being hidden or obvious is neither here nor there. kennedy's addisons disease WAS a potentially disqualifying factor. he just lied about, so noone knew. what kennedy did was highly unethical. reagans age WAS a potential disqualifying factor for many, as it should have been. likewise, his staff were on the brink of removing him from office, and certainly have never made his alzheimers public, because it WOULD have been disqualifying. that was highly unethical. i dont know that obamas smoking is considered a disqualifying factor by many, but if they want to judge a man based on his personal impulse control, or increased risk for cancer or heart disease, then by all means, voters should do so.

          •  Did you just equate being obese with robbing (2+ / 0-)
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            a bank, and then equate a refusal to vote for an obese person with catching a bank robber?

            Any candidate may well have serious health issues, and you will not know it.

            You are not informed enough enough to make even an educated guess about who is more likely to die during their term in office.

            "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

            by JesseCW on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 09:19:11 AM PST

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            •  insurance companies sure are (1+ / 0-)
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              and voters can be as discriminating themselves.  It's why the vetting process has become so intense in modern times.  We have the ability to be more informed.  And choosing who will be the President is a lot more deliberate a decision than who you choose to accept as a friend or acquaintance.

              •  You're now arguing in earnest that you're (0+ / 0-)

                certain you'd know if a Presidential candidate had a heart murmur?

                "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

                by JesseCW on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 11:40:39 PM PST

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            •  yes (1+ / 0-)
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              i was suggesting they are exactly the same, and that there is essentially no difference between a criminal and a fat person. i wasnt simply using the similar features shared by two distinct situations in order to make a clarifying analogy. i was actually saying being obese is just as bad as being a bank robber. in fact, i think all fat people should be arrested, and bank robbers should be set free to make room for them.

              •  the snark meter is broken on this one (0+ / 0-)

                Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
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                by TrueBlueMajority on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 04:34:40 PM PST

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                •  It wasn't snark. It was a disparaging analogy. (0+ / 0-)

                  "Gosh, I was only kidding when I targeted those fatties" isn't snark.

                  It's a back pedaling bully.

                  "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

                  by JesseCW on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 11:41:27 PM PST

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                  •  i did not receive the "bank robbery" comment (0+ / 0-)

                    as a personal slur.  Of course, your mileage may vary.

                    some presidents can hide their health problems, others can't.  just because some presidents did not get caught with health problems they could hide, does not mean that we should stop taking an interest in visible health problems.

                    that's why voters ask about the health of candidates.  sometimes we get the truth, sometimes we don't.

                    Politics is like driving. To go backward put it in R. To go forward put it in D.
                    Drop by The Grieving Room on Monday nights for support in dealing with grief.

                    by TrueBlueMajority on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 09:25:14 AM PST

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              •  You picked your smear. No one else. I just (0+ / 0-)

                called you out on it.

                If you didn't mean it, you would have apologized instead of pretending that whole problem lies with the people who you're attacking.

                "I have often seen people uncivil by too much civility, and tiresome in their courtesy." Michel de Montaigne

                by JesseCW on Sun Feb 10, 2013 at 11:42:31 PM PST

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    •  Ok, make Reagan ineligible. (1+ / 0-)
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      on second thought

      Works for me.

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