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  •  Transformation comes in changing (3+ / 0-)
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    people's ideas.  If a Democrat wins in 2016, that will be evidence of transformation.  If the Obama majority becomes the Dem Party majority, then the presidncy is tranformative in a real way.
     

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    by TomP on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 08:29:13 AM PST

    •  the transformation already happened (3+ / 0-)
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      we elected Obama.

      twice!

      -You want to change the system, run for office.

      by Deep Texan on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 08:48:49 AM PST

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      •  That's good, but Obama was (0+ / 0-)

        talking about something longer and deeper.  Clinton was elected twice.  yes, I get that Obama was teh first AA president, and that is very important, but when Obama spoke of Reagan being transformative, he meant in changing the entire conversation.  

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        by TomP on Mon Feb 11, 2013 at 10:00:20 AM PST

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      •  Ah, there's the rub (0+ / 0-)

        Don't declare victory and turn away. You can never do that in politics.

        Not only aren't we "there" yet, but we haven't even turned the clubhouse corner.

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