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  •  Jeers to the Savage Family Digging show or (14+ / 0-)

    whatever the reality show is where an ex wrestler and his family excavate historical sites and supposedly find artifacts to sell.  If this is real, the possible damage is staggering as their removal of artifacts removes the place and context of the item.
    Next week, they are supposedly going underwater to poke around the supposed site of Blackbeard's shipwreck.  These people have to be digging on public land at some point, which is generally illegal since metal detectors became available to the public in the 70s and Gettysburg and battlefields around Richmond were literally plowed by treasure hunters.

    I think the show is a fake as they supposedly found a colonial coin which had supposedly been buried for 200 years and it was as pristine as if it had just been taken from a PCGS sleeve  

    •  It WAS just taken from a PCGS sleeve. (7+ / 0-)

      Any program that shows people discovering fascinating and/or valuable artifacts on a weekly basis is definitely fixed.

      I believe in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a liberal, and I’m proud of it. - Paul Krugman

      by Gentle Giant on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 06:09:34 AM PST

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    •  Are those the guys who unearthed (4+ / 0-)
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      Honey Boo Boo's family?

      •  OK you win; I surrender. I recognize a superior (4+ / 0-)
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        wit when I see it

        •  I'm only a wit about half the time. :) (3+ / 0-)
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          •  That's what the family sez. (3+ / 0-)
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            srsly though......this one  ^^^^^^  is wicked smaht!

            We cannot call ourselves a civilised society if we refuse to protect the weakest among us.

            by The Marti on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 08:44:06 AM PST

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            •  Well you got the other half, Sis! (3+ / 0-)
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              Put that in your bong and toke it.

              •  One toke over the line sweet jeebus! (3+ / 0-)
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                We cannot call ourselves a civilised society if we refuse to protect the weakest among us.

                by The Marti on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 09:00:40 AM PST

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                •  Waitin on the train that goes home, (3+ / 0-)
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                  sweet Mary...

                  PS  Mr. Cactus, after reading some of your posts, wondered aloud if we might be related.  :)

                  •  LOL I suspect we are, somewhere back in the (4+ / 0-)
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                    DNA.  :-D

                    I loved the series that Professor Gates did on PBS about how some famous people are related to history.  I used to think we were all related no more distantly than 26th cousin, but I am reliably informed that it's now more like 18th.

                    I just refuse to be related to any of the current crop of Republicans.  I don't believe in cross-species dating. ;-p

                    We cannot call ourselves a civilised society if we refuse to protect the weakest among us.

                    by The Marti on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 09:36:32 AM PST

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                    •  My mom was 100% Irish. (3+ / 0-)
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                      If I told you her maiden name, you'd laugh your fookin head off. Ye ye ye!

                      •  There ya go! That's the link. I figured there (3+ / 0-)
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                        was something going on in the gene pool, but Bill started a rumour that it was just the ducky doin' a little paddlin' around.

                        We cannot call ourselves a civilised society if we refuse to protect the weakest among us.

                        by The Marti on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 09:59:33 AM PST

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                      •  You do know, don't you... (0+ / 0-)

                        ... that a lot of Irish, particularly from the coastal areas, are very often descendants of ancient Vikings rather than Celts..., yes?  That the famous red hair of the Irish came with the Vikings?  [My own Norwegian gr-grandfather had red hair and red beard until he died; he passed varying shades of red hair and red highlights in other colored hair to his descendants.]

                        I was on a DNA Genealogy list for a while, and large numbers of "100% Irish" or "100% Scottish" individuals had yDNA, in particular, that went straight back to Norse roots.

                        In DNA testing done in Iceland, the yDNA is mostly Norse and the mtDNA is mostly Irish Celt.  In the Faroe islands the yDNA is mostly Norse, and the mtDNA is mostly from Scotland and the outer northern Scottish islands.

                        My minor in college was Art History, and mostly I don't see a lot of difference between Hiberno-Irish-Celtic and Norse art in some periods.  They both use brilliant colors, intricate interweaving characters - i.e. Book of Kells, monoliths, stones erected in memory of various people, wood carvings in Norwegian stave kirkes, and there's one very intriguing Sheela-Na-Gig carved on the Nidaros Cathedral in Trondheim, Norway that could have come from Ireland and yet another old stone kirke in Inderøy not far from where my Norwegian ancestors lived that has some interesting figures in carved inlays on the foundation.  The longest Viking ship unearthed to that point in Scandinavia was found in Roskilde harbor in Denmark, and dendrochronological dating identified the trees as being from Ireland.  [Jutes were also Vikings from Jutland in Denmark, and Angles and Saxons were from what is modern-day southern Denmark and northern Germany.  Geats were Vikings from Sweden.]

                        Both Viking and Irish and Icelandic/Viking cultures have "little people," but which one influenced the other or did they both have "little people" before the cultures mingled...?  In England, the Anglo-Saxons and Vikings both landed at York (and other places, but a lot at York = Jorvik), then following the last invasions came the farmers, traders, merchants, and craftspeople, so the new immigrants moved inward and southward.  They brought the Danelaw with them.  All the villages in England with a "by" suffix have Norse origins from Viking settlers, in name if not in people.  One of the few words that stayed the same spelling and meaning through all three Scandinavian countries is the word "by" and it means "town."

                        So..., while you might be able to do genealogy research backward through the centuries that comes from Irish documents, the DNA you inherited before records were kept could as easily be Viking as Celt.


                        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

                        by NonnyO on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 08:55:03 PM PST

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