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  •  WTF (0+ / 0-)

    Apoligize for this racist misogynistic crap

    And maybe Dorner didn't have a father (or father figure) to mentor him through this difficult time

    "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

    by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 03:44:13 AM PST

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    •  That's a valid comment. Not racist. (2+ / 0-)
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      And yes, Dorner appears to be modeling his behavior on movies.

      He also has the narcissism that goes with acting, but here twisted to malignant narcissism with shear joy at killing people.

      Calling to brag about killing a man's daughter suggests that he is driven as much by blind hatred as by the hunt process.

      He sees himself as a hero.

      Any father figure could have steered him back to getting on with his life. There were years for that. "sensetolisten" is spot on.

      "Have you left no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" Army Attorney to Sen. McCarthy, 1954. "We have done nothing to be ashamed of. We have nothing to apologize for." NRA 12/14/2012.

      by bontemps2012 on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 04:57:26 AM PST

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    •  Racist ??? (1+ / 0-)
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      I know nothing of Dorner's father??? Or any father figee in his life? Maybe he had a father. Obama's father was absent, but his grandfather was, from what I have read, a very promenant father figure in his life and I am sure Obama experienced his own measure of problems, but look what he did. Now, I am not discounting the mother in a boy's life, but a boy tends to emulate the role model of his father. I am no psychologist, but that has been my experience. I offered that comment merely as a compassionate effort to empathize with Dorner. All I am saying is that my father would have guided me to take another "non-violent" course of action. I honestly meant no offense or insult. Most certainly, I meant no racial offense.

      How is what I've said in any way racist????

      Quite frankly, I am a bit shocked at your response.

    •  And Horace, did you notice I Tipd&Recd your diary? (1+ / 0-)
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      Why are you attacking me?

      I have given you kudos for your writing?

      I was trying to share a compassionate perspective for all parties affected by this, this is all.


      A dear close friend of mine is living in terror right now.

      A think a little compassion from all sides is needed.

    •  And in case it was not clear, (1+ / 0-)
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      Horace Boothroyd III

      I absolutely do apologize for any racist or misogynistic tone. I honestly did not intend that at all. I really was trying to be compassionate and empathize. I honestly felt your diary was a good positive contribution to addressing the systemic problem with the LAPD. Again, I tipped and recommended your diary because I respected and appreciated your work.

      Again, I am sorry for any and all offense.

      •  No problem. (1+ / 0-)
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        But please this man was a SEAL, there are father figures assigned to them.

        And really there are entire cultures thriving without a "father figure" in sight.

        "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

        by Horace Boothroyd III on Tue Feb 12, 2013 at 08:32:59 AM PST

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        •  I know there were ARE father figures in the SEALS (1+ / 0-)
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          and you will note that I FIRST (PRIOR TO MENTIONING HIS OWN FATHER (figure), discussed that the military training should have included non-violent alternatives. THAT was my real point, that was intended to be my main point, and quite honestly, I went back and added the comment about the "father figure" when I was thinking about my dad who is very ill right now and what he would have said to me. That was where my comment was coming from. I love my dad. I love my mom too. In many ways, my mom is much stronger than my dad. But my dad is ill. He might have cancer. My mom is well. I have been a little overly focused on his role in my life... but I am speaking to my mom 1 to 5 times a day. She is giving me the strength I need right now.

          Again, I am dearly sorry for any offense.

          •  No apology needed, sensetolisten. (0+ / 0-)

            Your comments are spot-on.

            Best wishes to you in managing your father's illness.

            (Btw, many SEALs do not in fact have father-figures -- especially once they leave the military. See the article on the SEAL who killed OBL:  It sounds like his wife has been a huge source of stability -- even though they're now separated.)

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