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  •  Sigged. nt (0+ / 0-)

    "What victims?" -KVoimakas, RKBA

    by Recall on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 12:12:14 PM PST

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    •  I really hope everyone else actually follows the (4+ / 0-)
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      theatre goon, andalusi, ER Doc, PavePusher

      link in your sig to see my response.

      Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

      by KVoimakas on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 12:17:11 PM PST

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      •  I'm sure they are expecting that no one will. (7+ / 0-)

        Which is why those two words were taken out of context to make it look as if you stated something you didn't.

        I mean, it's dishonest, but that seems to be a more popular tactic around here these days -- which is normally a tactic left to the Republicans.

        It's really sad to see how common it's becoming here these days...

        Yes, I often dress as a pirate. Your point?

        by theatre goon on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 12:51:26 PM PST

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        •  An eye-opener (3+ / 0-)
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          It is sad, especially since this is far from the only place, online or off, with such disingenuousness from people who normally are outraged by such petty tricks. I have lost a lot of faith in the progressive sites and voices I used to trust. We were supposed to be not just about the stance we took on important issues, but also about approaching discussions with honesty and integrity.

          A lot of people seem to be just as happy as the far right traditionally is with ad hominems, emotional appeals, buzzwords, an automatic assumption of bad faith for those who disagree, and actual pride in being ignorant of the facts. The ends apparently justify the means as long as you agree with the stance the person's taking.

          Certainly that's not everyone, but still a depressingly common experience.

          •  It was an eye-opener for me when I read (1+ / 0-)
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            Kos' first diary on the Conn shooting.  I don't recall the exact words, but it was along the lines of "Fuck all gun owners.  Take all their guns.  Yes, it is a complete and total violation of their rights, but I don't care".

            Seeing him write that he was willing to throw aside principles that I had come to believe that he had been standing on and campaigning for was a real let down and caused a loss that I don't think can ever be fully recovered.  I considered never coming back to this site again.  This was before I decided to become a registered user, which I did because I couldn't stand the let the spread of disinformation go unchallenged.

            These gun related threads in particular have really made it clear that there is little, if any difference between the right and the left.  I guess this explains why the two are always claiming the same things about each other.

      •  I do to. (0+ / 0-)

        That's why I included the link.

        "What victims?" -KVoimakas, RKBA

        by Recall on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 01:03:16 PM PST

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    •  Oh, and are you going to update your sig (5+ / 0-)

      to be what I actually meant (clarified by that later comment) or will you continue to use it to make it look like I think there are no victims?

      Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

      by KVoimakas on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 12:19:23 PM PST

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