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  •  I think I know that guy. Sry but I'm in stiches (1+ / 0-)
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    over that. Sry, the short ceilings would drive me nuts.

    he was NOT a (very) skilled workman when he started!
    I do a lot of "can you finish what this other guy started" work. Sometimes the other guy is the homeowner, sometimes just a crank.  

    I especially like it when they ask me to finish a job they rejected my bid on in the first place.

    Uh, sure, I take my coffee with cream and sugar, thanks.

    Is it an old house? With plaster it must be. Did they stack the drywall to plumb it up with the existing plaster? You'll see that after rewiring or ductwork. Sometimes the'll fir strip over a cracked up plaster ceiling with 2x4s. (Because how in the world can you find a joist behind plaster? or repair plaster for that matter).  So you might have a 2 1/2 dropped ceiling.

    My last job I had to remove a lot of that kind of thing and start over. Most times its best to just leave it alone instead of going backward with crappy repairs.  And that god awful popcorn coating that's supposed hide cracks!

    I met a guy who tried to extol the virtues of his broom technique with joint compound on ceilings. It was his art. Just smear joint compound all over a cracked plaster ceiling with a floor broom and put a swirl pattern in it. 20 gallons of mud later, you can't notice the damage because the entire ceiling looks like crap. :)

    •  I can name that tune in 3 notes, fisheye! (1+ / 0-)
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      It's unbelievable what some people will try to get away with....and all too often succeed.

      We had offers from similarly-skilled individuals to come and "help."  It's been easy to say "no, thanks."  And other people who have seen what we've done here have asked to hire me for repointing, usually for about $1 an hour.  It's been easy to say "no, thanks" to them, too.

      "I speak the truth, not as much as I would, but as much as I dare, and I dare a little the more, as I grow older." --Montaigne

      by DrLori on Sat Feb 16, 2013 at 05:16:03 AM PST

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      •  As soon as you started talking about (0+ / 0-)

        lime mortar, I knew you cared.

        There's little that bother's me more than seeing type S repairs destroying historic masonry. And an eyesore to boot.

        I really appreciate this diary.

        I was removing oilskin canvas plaster covering from a 100 year old house last month and found cartoon sketches penciled all over the bare plaster underneath. No doubt by the original carpenters. Really spectacular house built by a retail mogul in Detroit's hey day.
        They were getting drunk after work, and drawing cartoons about it on the walls. Pretty impressive art work actually. The homeowner wanted me to just paint over it, so I recovered it with modern paintable wall covering so maybe it will be revealed again someday.

    •  partial reply to fisheye -- hey, glad it was (0+ / 0-)

      good for a laugh, 8-)

      when we bucked-up the insulation? we started in teh boy's room, drilling from the inside instead of the outside. that meant patching the existing surface, which was textured. that was SUCH a mess, only my husband's stubbornness and skill resulted in anything like an acceptable finish and he's still not really happy with it. (managed to get bat insul. into the bottom 2/3s of the walls)

      when we moved on to our bedroom, we just took all the walls down and replaced with modern drywall. actually MUCH easier!

      Kitchen & LR CEILINGS had cracks, from, I swear, where they started plastering and then wandered off for long enough for the open frame to get rained on! that's what we deduced anyway. so DH sanded and about went crazy AGAIN trying to match the blinkety blank texture on the ceiling. he's artistic, stubborn (as I mentioned) and VERY good with his hands, so these ceiling repairs came out in the category of "he can still see them, but probably only a construction pro of pro plaster-man would be able to"

      He did a masterful job of replacing the floor where the oil heater had been (hardwood short-stick, oak), but then he's a woodworker. The ceiling repair, where the oil burner had been, was our first try and it's bumpy enough that I can see it, but he's not going to re-do it at this point (we're almost out of here).

      "real" work : a job where you wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom...

      by chimene on Sat Feb 16, 2013 at 02:06:07 PM PST

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