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    Cassandra Waites, avsp

    He almost said it, but not quite.  The words were in the same sentence, just not together.

    I think that the 'minimum wage' should be indexed to the poverty level, not to inflation.  Income tax brackets should be as well.

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    by smokeymonkey on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 09:49:54 AM PST

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    •  Why indexed to poverty level? (1+ / 0-)
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      Meteor Blades

      It is adjusted to inflation and Consumer Price Index, so the effect would presumably be similar.

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      by Catte Nappe on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 10:18:59 AM PST

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    •  Pardon my french, (1+ / 0-)
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      Odysseus

      but seeing as how we're now indexing the federal estate tax to inflation, why the fuck aren't we doing the same with the federal minimum wage?

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      by BobSoperJr on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 10:41:52 AM PST

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    •  Not a good idea. (0+ / 0-)

      When poverty goes up, it is because more people are unemployed.

      How does raising the Minimum Wage help an unemployed man?  Nobody will hire him at $7/hr...how do you expect him to find a job that pays $8/hr?

      •  Because they need a new employee (2+ / 0-)
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        Catte Nappe, schnecke21

        to do more work.  Unemployment isn't as high as it is because companies don't want to pay more for employees, it's because they don't need more people to do work.

      •  Your "reasoning" is too simplistic. (4+ / 0-)

        A higher minimum wage does more -- much more -- for the economy than it does simply for the worker who is paid that wage. It's the multiplier effect. That minimum wage worker spends essentially all of his raise. This increases net consumer demand. More demand means more production to satisfy it, which means more jobs. Prosperity for the middle class breeds more prosperity.

        Your view logically leads to every worker being paid just enough to survive, but not enough to thrive. Granted, this situation would be best for you, personally. Why should you pay an extra dollar to a worker who will just blow it all on things like rent, food, clothing, education, consumer goods, etc? Surely, it's better for you personally to keep that dollar for yourself.

        But the question is this: What is best for the rest of the country?

        Note to Boehner and McConnell: "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." --Bob Dylan-- (-7.25, -6.21)

        by Tim DeLaney on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 12:37:54 PM PST

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