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View Diary: Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu starts off the 2014 campaign in unexpectedly good shape (90 comments)

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  •  You ask much of me (12+ / 0-)

    to join in a cheer for the re-election of Mary Landrieu, but I accept the argument that any Republican would be not only a little, but much worse.

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    by eataTREE on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 12:52:24 PM PST

    •  That is fair n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    •  Why we need all kinds of Democrats (10+ / 0-)

      We can't do anything in the Senate if it is run by the GOP.  We need 51 Democrat Senators or 50 plus a Democrat Vice-President.  

      If any of you aren't old enough to remember what it is like for the GOP to control the House, Senate and Presidency, do some research.  Also, we are a large and diverse country.  Our government should reflect this, and so should our party, which it does, a lot more so than the GOP, especially on the issues.

      We can't win elections and win the presidency if we are too far in the extreme.  We have to take into account that there are Democrats in red states that have certain things in common with us and some differences.  

      Senator Kennedy was one of the most successful legislators of all time because he was able to find common ground with others and make progress, sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly.  But, progress is progress.

      Mary Landrieu will vote for a Democrat for majority leader of the senate.  She will more than likely support us on most issues, even if she has to create a little drama.  

      You want to be a purist, look at where it is taking the GOP.

      As progressives, we always have to push extra hard for what we believe in.  If we push for a little, we get very, very little, but if we push extra hard, we certainly make some progress.  We also have to know that we have friends in the middle who can stand with us sometimes, but not every time.  

      I do know that individual legislators have to have some core beliefs.  Make up your mind, then, either be a Democrat or be a Republican.  You can't be all things to all people.  It is alright to piss a few people off here and there.  Frankly, most voters respect someone who has a core.  But, legislators also have to be willing to work with others too.  Balance, balance, balance!

      •  Amen (0+ / 0-)

        23, male, CA-18 (home and voting there), LA-01 (college).

        by Jeff Singer on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 01:34:03 PM PST

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      •  Yes, we need all kinds of Democrats (6+ / 0-)

        but we also need to get the most progressive Democrats we can.

        Did Landrieu bash the public option? Yes.

        What would have happened if Landrieu hadn't been there at all and a Republican had instead? No healthcare reform at all, since we needed all 60 votes to pass it.

        We need to be prepared to wage primary challenges where it makes sense (like against Joe Lieberman), but there are some states where we should just be grateful to have someone who will vote for a Democrat as majority leader, vote for Obama's nominees, and vote with us some of the other times depending on the issues (and in fairness to Landrieu, depending on the issue, she can be a passionate advocate for our causes). There's no possible progressive challenger to Landrieu who could win the seat, and Landrieu is far better than some like Manchin who are really not good for much beyond the majority leader vote. I'm a big advocate of the fact that we need 51 (or, unfortunately, 60) votes on each issue we care about, not just 51 (or 60) people with a D next to their name. And if I had a choice between spending time or money on Landrieu or a progressive with a solid chance somewhere else, I'd choose the progressive. But it doesn't usually have to be an either/or, and there's no point in wishing ill to someone who is going to be way more help to us than the alternative.

    •  Agreed. See 2010 Arkansas Senate race. (0+ / 0-)

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