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  •  So, When An Individual Enters The U.S. Illegally (4+ / 0-)

    Buys a fraudulent or stolen Social Security card, Driver's License, etc., and then fraudulently signs and I9 form stating that they are legally eligible to work in the U.S., is then possibly deported from the U.S. only to enter again, obtaining another set of fake documents only to do the same thing over again -- and then at some point this person turns to you and states "I don't like your implication that I'm doing something illegal" -- you seriously at some don't bust out laughing at the idiocy of that statement?

    I won't be coming home tonight, my generation will put it right - Genesis 9:3

    by superscalar on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 06:33:25 PM PST

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    •  No, and I didn't suggest any of that. (3+ / 0-)

      Most of what you listed in your litany of crimes are actual criminal offenses, and covered by criminal law, not immigration law.

      You fell right into the trap JusticePutnam was complaining about. You conflated criminal and immigration law.

      Immigration law is about status, not the crimes people may go on to commit, which is why he asked for people to be referred to as "undocumented aliens" in the first place.

      The immigration status is dealt with by adjudication, not trial. Detainees are not prisoners, or convicted of anything, they are detained pending action which may, or may not, include deporting them.

      So no, I do not laugh at either the idiocy of the statement, or the ignorance of the law which you are not the only one guilty of.

      This stuff matters, and I'd rather you learn the difference than get into angry or mocking debate.

      I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
      but I fear we will remain Democrats.

      Who is twigg?

      by twigg on Wed Feb 13, 2013 at 06:39:21 PM PST

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