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  •  Saddam's words... (3+ / 0-)
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    "I asked him, 'What's your name?' First, he said, 'Uh.'

    "I said, 'What's your name?' He said, 'I'm Saddam.' ... I had to really yell at him and stuff. He said, 'I am Saddam Hussein.'"

    Samir said the former dictator only spoke two words of English: "America, why?" -- a line Saddam said three times.

    "I remember one of the forces told me to tell him, 'The reason we are here (is) because President Bush sent us to find you,'"

     Samir said.

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    This exchange between Saddam and his capturers which took at the very moment of his capturing have always bothered me. I believe the rather confused and traumatized dictator was sincere in his question "America, why?"...and that's telling a lot. He, by a long shot, was no angel and probably would have had his comeuppance one way or another but for it to happen by "American hands," there had to be a reason, and Saddam did not know that reason. This is troubling because when someone is guilty of wrongdoing involving a specific cause, he/she does not ask "why" when confronted.

    Not like that.

    I will appreciate all input involving this matter.


    "Corruptio Optimi Pessima" (Corruption of the best is the worst)

    by zenox on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 11:06:39 AM PST

    •  I spoke to a soldier on a plane about (2+ / 0-)
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      the situation.  He said we did not understand the mentality of the place; that the factions and tribes were so angry with each other that Hussein had to be a complete bastard to stay in power.  

      Perhaps yes, perhaps no - but certainly we did not understand the mentality.

      by chloris creator on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 11:10:28 AM PST

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      •  Saddam was a nasty tyrant... (3+ / 0-)
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        ...but he had his redeeming qualities. First, being a staunch secular, he was not tolerating religious fundamentalism and that meant he was deeply resented by those who were fanatics. Iraq had reasonably modern existence under Saddam with education, arts, women's rights and modern dress, economy, infrastructure and a pretty capital city, Baghdad. Our invasion destroyed it all and took the country backwards where now women have to cover from head to toe and the fundamentalists are in power. In addition hundreds of thousands have died, maimed and many were tortured. The level of human suffering the invasion inflicted on the population boggles the mind.

        Saddam was a tyrant (terrorized the minorities like the Iraqi Kurds in the North and the Iraqi Shiites in order to hold onto power) yes but he was not necessarily an enemy to USA or to the Western civilization.

        We had no legitimate reason to invade Iraq or to capture and kill Saddam.

        We were fooled by the 9/11 hypnosis. That hypnosis made it easier to sell us the false WMD claims.

        9/11...Saddam had nothing to do with it.

        "Corruptio Optimi Pessima" (Corruption of the best is the worst)

        by zenox on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 11:33:52 AM PST

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