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  •  The Gang of 14 stopped the Nuclear Option (0+ / 0-)

    It was made up of 7 Democrats.  ...any guess on who the others were?

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 11:43:37 AM PST

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    •  dude, that was 2005 (0+ / 0-)

      the GOP of 2005 is not today's GOP. Today's GOP has no problem using economic terrorism (or restricting voting rights or rigging the electoral college) to force through their agenda of rewarding rich people and fucking over poor people. Have you not been paying attention since 2010? They would nuke the filibuster in a heartbeat if that would help them enact their agenda.

      •  ok (0+ / 0-)

        Four of the seven members are still in office but you KNOW how they, and others, would vote in the future.

        I don't know how to argue a "my guess about the future is better than your guess about the future" discussion.

        So...okay; I get what you are saying, I guess.

        Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

        by Wisper on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 12:04:46 PM PST

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        •  my guess is more grounded in reality that yours (0+ / 0-)

          if you've been paying attention since 2008, you would know that folk like, say, John McCain have changed a lot. You really think that John McCain of 2005 still exists? gimme a break.

          •  I guess (0+ / 0-)

            two of the GOP senators that stopped the nuclear option were Graham and McCain... and today, this

            Reid is calling for cloture votes as I'm typing this.

            Odd, that.

            Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

            by Wisper on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 12:41:14 PM PST

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