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  •  Yes, this is more or less my thinking on the issue (2+ / 0-)
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    Rei, chimene

    Yes, we need to retire fossil fuel technology. But, optimistically, this will take another twenty-five years, and in the meantime fifty million Americans need to drive to work tomorrow morning and we need to buy that oil somewhere. So, we can give the money to Canadians or to Hugo Chavez and the House of Saud; I know which I prefer.

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    by eataTREE on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 12:02:34 PM PST

    •  Except we won't be paying the Canadians (6+ / 0-)

      They will be selling to the world market, and we'll be buying from it. Presumably including Chavez and the Saudis.

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      by Catte Nappe on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 12:17:15 PM PST

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      •  Asians can afford to fill up a scooter at $10 (0+ / 0-)

        a gallon

        We cant afford to fill up a SUV at $10 a gallon.

        Look 10 -15 years ahead.

        FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.

        by Roger Fox on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 07:46:54 PM PST

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    •  And increasing the supply delays the developement (4+ / 0-)
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      of viable alternatives.
      By stalling and tying up this dirty shame in Alberta, by fighting off any and every attempt to get to market, we CAN defeat these PetroTrafficantes. This was how we stopped the march of Nuclear in the 70s, by making it so expensive and slow that the market fundamentals were not there.
      Bringing that last huge pool of Petro online stunts the growth of anything that could replace it, meaning that a couple generations down the road, if we don't all cook, when that last reserve is depleted, the conversion is that much harder, that much more dislocating, that much less graceful.

      If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

      by CwV on Thu Feb 14, 2013 at 12:57:53 PM PST

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    •  Twenty five years?? (0+ / 0-)

      Are you kidding.  More 125 years.  Get real.

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