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  •  "...but you can't nuke tides..." lololololol... (13+ / 0-)

    Great line.

    Don't tell me what you believe, show me what you do and I will tell you what you believe.

    by Meteor Blades on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 02:30:31 PM PST

    •  MB, don't be so sure it's just a line. The big (1+ / 0-)
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      players have had their sites on the moon, the poles, and space, for a while.

      Sorry, unless I provide you links, this is CT?

      •  What do you mean "the big players have had their (0+ / 0-)

        sites on the moon, the poles, and space"?  I've seen no budgetary evidence of such an emphasis, other than oil development in the Arctic.

        Pour yourself into the future.

        by Troubadour on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 03:20:55 PM PST

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        •  Doncha remember Gingrich talking about (1+ / 0-)
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          putting men back on the moon?

          American Television is a vast sea of stupid. -xxdr zombiexx

          by glitterscale on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 03:32:46 PM PST

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          •  Nobody takes Newt Gingrich seriously. (1+ / 0-)
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            I kind of wish they would on that subject, because space is very important, but the reality is that public sector space has only two power constituencies: Spy sat launch and pork.  And pork is a lot easier to dole out quietly if there isn't a great deal of public attention, which is why Congress doesn't want bold, ambitious missions.

            Pour yourself into the future.

            by Troubadour on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 03:42:22 PM PST

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        •  Actually, moon based energy production (1+ / 0-)
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          Is a key component in China's theory to reach the moon.

          They strongly believe that Helium3 will be a key component in next generation energy, and so part of their goal to "reach the moon" is to figure out how to harvest it.   There have even been plans of how they could just design ditchable boxes that could be shot back into our oceans (not joking) full of H3.  It's been a big part of their goal since '06, but they've been making it more in depth with their planning.

          http://www.wired.com/...

          .

          While still theoretical, nuclear fusion is touted as a safer, more sustainable way to generate nuclear energy: Fusion plants produce much less radioactive waste, especially if powered by helium-3. But experts say commercial-sized fusion reactors are at least 50 years away.

          The isotope is extremely rare on Earth but abundant on the moon. Some experts estimate there a millions of tons in lunar soil -- and that a single Space-Shuttle load would power the entire United States for a year.

          Gandhi's Seven Sins: Wealth without work; Pleasure without conscience; Knowledge without character; Commerce without morality; Science without humanity; Worship without sacrifice; Politics without principle

          by Chris Reeves on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 04:10:58 PM PST

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          •  That's just talk. (1+ / 0-)
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            China's space program makes steady progress, but they plan to take their sweet time, and it's not really a budget priority for them.  They're not on any kind of Kennedy plan.  Since the beginning of their program in 2003, they've only conducted 4 manned space launches of a total of 13 people - or an average of 1 launch every 2.5 years, or 1.3 astronauts per year.  That will increase with time, but again, they're on a slowboat.

            Not that NASA's exactly leaping into the final frontier either, but the US has two parallel and complementary manned space programs under development due to SpaceX's private efforts in addition to the Orion/SLS being done more traditionally.  I wouldn't bet on China getting the Moon before Americans return by whatever means, but I would bet they become a major presence afterward.

            Pour yourself into the future.

            by Troubadour on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 04:47:36 PM PST

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    •  You must be having a fun day... (0+ / 0-)

      "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."........ "The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." (yeah, same guy.)

      by sidnora on Fri Feb 15, 2013 at 03:52:37 PM PST

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